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Show HN: Clone someone and talk to them like in real life

27 points by zhuofengli 3y ago

Borrible 3y ago
Thanks, but no thanks. To quote Nietzsche simply out of context, "many too many are already born", so no need to copy 'n' paste them. But I would like to study the data of those that talk to the copies not just for fun.
- HHC-Hunter 3y ago
  So philosophical.
  - WentFullRetard 3y ago
    [dead]
trimethylpurine 3y ago
Firefox Android, I get an option to share my email address and no information about what this is or who would be using that information. No thanks.
- AlchemistCamp 3y ago
  It looks like a standard account creation flow. If you chose the email option instead of “sign in with Google”, the server will probably use that email address to send you a login link. This is pretty standard for any web service, even blogs, where users can create accounts.
  - trimethylpurine 3y ago
    Sure, the login and sign up process is standard. But it's not typical to provide no information as to who is operating the site, or what the site does. Do those things appear in your browser? I only see a title, a sign up link, and some celebrity photos.
    - zhuofengli 3y ago
      Hi there - thanks for the feedback. This is just an MVP and the UX might be confusing. It's a site where you can create voice clones of someone and talk to them. You can tap on the celebrities to chat with them as a test
  - saaaaaam 3y ago
    I think the comment means “who ends up with my email address and why” not “why am I being asked fire on email address to create an account”. Given that - presumably - you are going to be asked for content such as voice recordings to create the clone this is a valid concern.
  - timeon 3y ago
    Standard would include “sign in with Apple” - which at least provides some kind of anonymity.
jeroenhd 3y ago
Why does the demo require an account, isn't the whole point it the demo to convince people to register? I'm not going to give away my email address without knowing more than "clone someone with ChatGPT" on a website with no more information than four names and a title. I'm guessing this is another character.ai then?
- zhuofengli 3y ago
  it's more like a voice chat version of character.ai requiring an account makes it easier to store user chat history so that in future the AI would have the context but maybe you're right, allowing guest usage could improve conversions
  - az09mugen 3y ago
    Also 6th point of HN guidelines https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html
zaggynl 3y ago
These Black Mirror episodes come to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Right_Back https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Right_Back A woman gets a clone of her deceased husband https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Is_Awful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Is_Awful A woman gets replaced by another woman
Alifatisk 3y ago
"Firebase: Exceeded daily quota for email sign-in. (auth/quota-exceeded)" Been looking for a app that allows me to clone a face based on the pictures I have and able to create pictures with that person in it.
- zhuofengli 3y ago
  It should have been fixed, can you try again? if you're looking to create photos of someone, you can take a look at: https://suitup.ai https://suitup.ai
6510 3y ago
howabout a video?
Mrirazak1 3y ago
I think the problem I have with this is the ethical and moral side of things because people can form unhealthy relationships with things that aren’t real. It’s not a real person and people already struggle with making meaningful connections.
KingGeedorah 3y ago
Isn't this what Replika was originally supposed to be?
gavinray 3y ago
So, I have a legitimate question about this sort of thing: My grandparents are getting older, and historically their health hasn't been the greatest. I get to visit them maybe once or twice a year. I might see them less than 10 times again in my lifetime. Given current technology, is it not feasible for me to digitally preserve their personality and experiences somehow? My thought was that I could: - Use an iPhone camera to take 3D scan of their bodies in a T-Pose with LIDAR - Record several hours of them talking to me - Ask them to give me copies of any sort of written correspondence or journals they have ever written, as well as maybe start keeping a daily diary (either written or vocal) Theoretically with this data, wouldn't I be able to generate a 3D, VR version of them that is sort of somewhat similar? If not, what else do I need/should I do to improve accuracy? Thanks HN.
- noman-land 3y ago
  Have you asked your grandparents if they want to be preserved in this way?
- jfim 3y ago
  > I get to visit them maybe once or twice a year. I might see them less than 10 times again in my lifetime. If you can, it's probably better to go spend time with them than trying to clone them using technology. I've worked remotely for a month from my parents' house earlier this year, and we all really enjoyed it since we could spend time together after work. Hopefully you have that opportunity too.
- NiagaraThistle 3y ago
  I don't recall the guy's name. I don't even know what to google to find a link for you, but several years ago I came across an article of a man who did something similar to what you are talking about but as a Chat Bot (it was well before ChatGPT was public). He did a large number of interviews with his dying father over the course of a year. Then he transposed all the questions and answer from those interviews into a database (i think). And built a Chat bot that used natural language to 'talk' with him after his father passed away to preserve his father in a virtual way. THe bot could answer random questions (not the interview questions) and form answers in the 'voice' and 'tone' of his dad bases on the hundreds or thousands of questions he'd asked in those interviews. It could create new answers based on all that data as if the father was texting his son. I know that the article (or series of articles) I read about this was pretty detailed in how the man went about this. I'm sorry I can't recall where I read this. I am sure there is a way to do something much more in depth now that ChatGPT is as robust as it is.
JohnFen 3y ago
Damn, I hope nobody ever clones me like that.
ngvan 3y ago
Awesome. I can imagine people who lost their loved ones will find this very helpful.
quickthrower2 3y ago
This gets more interesting if you clone Einstein or Archimedes etc. It could be sort of educational.
- HenryBemis 3y ago
  Star Trek holodeck comes to mind, "computer create the facsimile of X-scientist, enrich the persona with his/her journals and blah blah blah" and then you get to interact with the persona.

27 points by zhuofengli 3y ago

Thanks, but no thanks. To quote Nietzsche simply out of context, "many too many are already born", so no need to copy 'n' paste them. But I would like to study the data of those that talk to the copies not just for fun.

HHC-Hunter 3y ago
So philosophical.
- WentFullRetard 3y ago
  [dead]

trimethylpurine 3y ago

Firefox Android, I get an option to share my email address and no information about what this is or who would be using that information. No thanks.

AlchemistCamp 3y ago
It looks like a standard account creation flow. If you chose the email option instead of “sign in with Google”, the server will probably use that email address to send you a login link. This is pretty standard for any web service, even blogs, where users can create accounts.
- trimethylpurine 3y ago
  Sure, the login and sign up process is standard. But it's not typical to provide no information as to who is operating the site, or what the site does. Do those things appear in your browser? I only see a title, a sign up link, and some celebrity photos.
  - zhuofengli 3y ago
    Hi there - thanks for the feedback. This is just an MVP and the UX might be confusing. It's a site where you can create voice clones of someone and talk to them. You can tap on the celebrities to chat with them as a test
- saaaaaam 3y ago
  I think the comment means “who ends up with my email address and why” not “why am I being asked fire on email address to create an account”. Given that - presumably - you are going to be asked for content such as voice recordings to create the clone this is a valid concern.
- timeon 3y ago
  Standard would include “sign in with Apple” - which at least provides some kind of anonymity.

jeroenhd 3y ago

Why does the demo require an account, isn't the whole point it the demo to convince people to register? I'm not going to give away my email address without knowing more than "clone someone with ChatGPT" on a website with no more information than four names and a title. I'm guessing this is another character.ai then?

zhuofengli 3y ago
it's more like a voice chat version of character.ai requiring an account makes it easier to store user chat history so that in future the AI would have the context but maybe you're right, allowing guest usage could improve conversions
- az09mugen 3y ago
  Also 6th point of HN guidelines https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

zaggynl 3y ago

These Black Mirror episodes come to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Right_Back https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Right_Back A woman gets a clone of her deceased husband https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Is_Awful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Is_Awful A woman gets replaced by another woman

Alifatisk 3y ago

"Firebase: Exceeded daily quota for email sign-in. (auth/quota-exceeded)" Been looking for a app that allows me to clone a face based on the pictures I have and able to create pictures with that person in it.

zhuofengli 3y ago
It should have been fixed, can you try again? if you're looking to create photos of someone, you can take a look at: https://suitup.ai https://suitup.ai

6510 3y ago

howabout a video?

Mrirazak1 3y ago

I think the problem I have with this is the ethical and moral side of things because people can form unhealthy relationships with things that aren’t real. It’s not a real person and people already struggle with making meaningful connections.

KingGeedorah 3y ago

Isn't this what Replika was originally supposed to be?

gavinray 3y ago

So, I have a legitimate question about this sort of thing: My grandparents are getting older, and historically their health hasn't been the greatest. I get to visit them maybe once or twice a year. I might see them less than 10 times again in my lifetime. Given current technology, is it not feasible for me to digitally preserve their personality and experiences somehow? My thought was that I could: - Use an iPhone camera to take 3D scan of their bodies in a T-Pose with LIDAR - Record several hours of them talking to me - Ask them to give me copies of any sort of written correspondence or journals they have ever written, as well as maybe start keeping a daily diary (either written or vocal) Theoretically with this data, wouldn't I be able to generate a 3D, VR version of them that is sort of somewhat similar? If not, what else do I need/should I do to improve accuracy? Thanks HN.

noman-land 3y ago
Have you asked your grandparents if they want to be preserved in this way?
jfim 3y ago
> I get to visit them maybe once or twice a year. I might see them less than 10 times again in my lifetime. If you can, it's probably better to go spend time with them than trying to clone them using technology. I've worked remotely for a month from my parents' house earlier this year, and we all really enjoyed it since we could spend time together after work. Hopefully you have that opportunity too.
NiagaraThistle 3y ago
I don't recall the guy's name. I don't even know what to google to find a link for you, but several years ago I came across an article of a man who did something similar to what you are talking about but as a Chat Bot (it was well before ChatGPT was public). He did a large number of interviews with his dying father over the course of a year. Then he transposed all the questions and answer from those interviews into a database (i think). And built a Chat bot that used natural language to 'talk' with him after his father passed away to preserve his father in a virtual way. THe bot could answer random questions (not the interview questions) and form answers in the 'voice' and 'tone' of his dad bases on the hundreds or thousands of questions he'd asked in those interviews. It could create new answers based on all that data as if the father was texting his son. I know that the article (or series of articles) I read about this was pretty detailed in how the man went about this. I'm sorry I can't recall where I read this. I am sure there is a way to do something much more in depth now that ChatGPT is as robust as it is.

JohnFen 3y ago

Damn, I hope nobody ever clones me like that.

ngvan 3y ago

Awesome. I can imagine people who lost their loved ones will find this very helpful.

quickthrower2 3y ago

This gets more interesting if you clone Einstein or Archimedes etc. It could be sort of educational.

HenryBemis 3y ago
Star Trek holodeck comes to mind, "computer create the facsimile of X-scientist, enrich the persona with his/her journals and blah blah blah" and then you get to interact with the persona.