2 ms·

Purism, System76, Framework etc. are not evil.

• pjmlp 3y ago
  If only the hardware on their laptops would be 100% functional.
  • fsflover 3y ago
    Works quite well for me.
    • pjmlp 3y ago
      As in, "the hardware features that don't work are irrelevant to me", or "I enjoy tinkering"? https://frame.work/de/en/linux https://frame.work/de/en/linux
      • tjoff 3y ago
        Are you making such a big deal out of the fingerprint reader?
        • pjmlp 3y ago
          When I pay for something it better either everything works, or money refund. To get GNU/Linux going without proper hardware support I can do it myself, no need to pay extra.
          • tjoff 3y ago
            I don't think you understand the value proposition. But you can at least try to be honest and not spread fud.
            • pjmlp 3y ago
              Having used GNU/Linux since kernel 1.0.9 and subscribed all Linux User Journal issues since the 5th issue until their insolvency, I am quite aware of I am talking about. What FUD, when the Framework themselves admit none of the provided Linux distributions support 100% of the hardware features they are selling? We already had white brands doing the same 20 years ago during the dot-com wave. Eventually tinkering becomes tiresome.
              • fsflover 3y ago
                > when the Framework themselves admit none of the provided Linux distributions support 100% of the hardware features they are selling? Which means you get exactly what was advertised. Try the other two companies in my list.
                • pjmlp 3y ago
                  The standard reply, here https://www.reddit.com/r/System76/s/dohrbjShW6 https://www.reddit.com/r/System76/s/dohrbjShW6 Great experience for Apple like prices. /s
• martin8412 3y ago
  Purism are unethical scumbags.
  • fsflover 3y ago
    This is FUD. I flagged your post. Also: Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    • martin8412 3y ago
      No it's not. They've changed their policies retroactively multiple times. When people originally ordered the Purism 5, they could get a refund at any time. Then they changed it multiple times, and now you can't get a refund at all.
      • fsflover 3y ago
        https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-refund/16227/105 https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-refund/16227...