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Very much so. Watching the Last Week Tonight segment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsZP9o7SlI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsZP9o7SlI) on this recently,

Very much so. Watching the Last Week Tonight segment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsZP9o7SlI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsZP9o7SlI) on this recently, in a startling number of states, a one time declaration that you're homeschooling effectively drops the kids out of the system with zero oversight from that point on. You get things like a Christian family whose "curriculum" for their daughters was: listen to classical music, bible listening 20 minutes/day, handwriting, bible memorization, exercise 15/day (not great so far, but wait for it): clean room 6/week, fold laundry 5/week, clean living room 5/week, clear off bar 6/week, tidy shelves in dining room 3/week, tidy stereo cabinet 2/week, clean brown cupboard in pantry 5/week, clean storeroom 1/week, tidy blue chest, dust piano, clean and vacuum, clean hallway, make bed...

robertlagrant 3y ago
It's worth noting that this segment seems tailor made to instill in we the viewer what we should feel about this topic.
- ohdannyboy 3y ago
  That's every LWT. The whole infotainment genre does it but IMO that show is one of the worst in terms of fairness despite being very well made. It's hard to make a funny video about how obvious a complex issue is while not being very one sided.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    Totally agree. My worry is this outlet is trusted (and presented) as factual, with jokes on top of facts, instead of what it actually is.
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    I don't mind the way they do it too much. Most episodes are framed in "this is done well, sometimes, but these are some of the problems".
- ToucanLoucan 3y ago
  I've grown so weary of this reflexive desire on the part of a certain kind of person who feels any news source or factual content that clearly has an ideological bent or a certain lean on an issue is therefore inherently less credible. 100% unbiased reporting is simply not possible. As a person, a journalist brings a lifetime of bias, experiences and yes even prejudices into their work, they can't not. I follow plenty of journalists with whom I agree with on pretty much anything and plenty with whom I have numerous disagreements, but I follow them because they report the facts as they exist in reality, yes, with their given view layered over top. Part of good media literacy is being able to discern the facts from the opinion on the part of the reporter. In this case: Yes, it's clear that the LWT team skews pretty liberal, and because of that, they and I are going to disagree on a lot. But you really don't need to spin the fact that numerous groups of extremely christian parents are providing home schooling that borders on (and sometimes crosses into) child abuse. The way children are treated as parents property in this country is fucking disgusting. This is not simply "someone's child" this is what will eventually become a person, a person who will have to work to earn a living the same as the rest of us, a person who will have to reckon with global politics and issues, a person who will have to file taxes and send out their water bill, I could go on for the rest of the day listing off things they will almost certainly have to do, and NONE of them, not a single, sodding, fucking, solitary one of those things, is going to be helped by Jesus. My wife grew up in an extremely religious household (not fundamentalist thankfully, but very evangelical all the same) and they completely and utterly failed her in terms of preparing her for the real world, in ways too numerous to name here. She learned a whole lot about Jesus though! Not that it did her much because she's an atheist now, and I basically have to run the logistics of the household because she can't do math. This is among many reasons for my continued slide further from Atheist to Anti-Theist.
  - anon291 3y ago
    For every one of your wife there's another who did just fine. Given that the majority of universities up until just recently were religious, I find it difficult to understand your conflation of religion with ignorance. Are there extremists? Of course... but overall, the idea that just because something is religious it's less educational is... bad. I mean, before public schools in America (and still in Canada), Catholic parochial schooling was the largest school system, and still is the largest private one.
AlgorithmicTime 3y ago
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robertlagrant 3y ago

It's worth noting that this segment seems tailor made to instill in we the viewer what we should feel about this topic.

ohdannyboy 3y ago
That's every LWT. The whole infotainment genre does it but IMO that show is one of the worst in terms of fairness despite being very well made. It's hard to make a funny video about how obvious a complex issue is while not being very one sided.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  Totally agree. My worry is this outlet is trusted (and presented) as factual, with jokes on top of facts, instead of what it actually is.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  I don't mind the way they do it too much. Most episodes are framed in "this is done well, sometimes, but these are some of the problems".
ToucanLoucan 3y ago
I've grown so weary of this reflexive desire on the part of a certain kind of person who feels any news source or factual content that clearly has an ideological bent or a certain lean on an issue is therefore inherently less credible. 100% unbiased reporting is simply not possible. As a person, a journalist brings a lifetime of bias, experiences and yes even prejudices into their work, they can't not. I follow plenty of journalists with whom I agree with on pretty much anything and plenty with whom I have numerous disagreements, but I follow them because they report the facts as they exist in reality, yes, with their given view layered over top. Part of good media literacy is being able to discern the facts from the opinion on the part of the reporter. In this case: Yes, it's clear that the LWT team skews pretty liberal, and because of that, they and I are going to disagree on a lot. But you really don't need to spin the fact that numerous groups of extremely christian parents are providing home schooling that borders on (and sometimes crosses into) child abuse. The way children are treated as parents property in this country is fucking disgusting. This is not simply "someone's child" this is what will eventually become a person, a person who will have to work to earn a living the same as the rest of us, a person who will have to reckon with global politics and issues, a person who will have to file taxes and send out their water bill, I could go on for the rest of the day listing off things they will almost certainly have to do, and NONE of them, not a single, sodding, fucking, solitary one of those things, is going to be helped by Jesus. My wife grew up in an extremely religious household (not fundamentalist thankfully, but very evangelical all the same) and they completely and utterly failed her in terms of preparing her for the real world, in ways too numerous to name here. She learned a whole lot about Jesus though! Not that it did her much because she's an atheist now, and I basically have to run the logistics of the household because she can't do math. This is among many reasons for my continued slide further from Atheist to Anti-Theist.
- anon291 3y ago
  For every one of your wife there's another who did just fine. Given that the majority of universities up until just recently were religious, I find it difficult to understand your conflation of religion with ignorance. Are there extremists? Of course... but overall, the idea that just because something is religious it's less educational is... bad. I mean, before public schools in America (and still in Canada), Catholic parochial schooling was the largest school system, and still is the largest private one.

AlgorithmicTime 3y ago

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