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That's some of it but not all of it. If you uncheck those and proxy FF when it's starting you'll see the chatter. I have the doc page I'm talking about somewher

That's some of it but not all of it. If you uncheck those and proxy FF when it's starting you'll see the chatter. I have the doc page I'm talking about somewhere but I have no idea where it is. Fully disabling it is a long complex process involving about:config. * Found this: https://github.com/K3V1991/Disable-Firefox-Telemetry-and-Data-Collection https://github.com/K3V1991/Disable-Firefox-Telemetry-and-Dat... I haven't compared their list to the one I've used before but it's along the same lines and explains the discrepancy between the config settings and Firefox's actual behavior.

ceejayoz 3y ago
Those largely appear to affect local collection of telemetry. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7k3r9u/mozilla_is_collecting_your_data_even_you_disabled/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7k3r9u/mozilla_is_... > Telemetry data is stored locally by default. As long as the relevant options in the settings' UI are unchecked, or datareporting.healthreport.uploadEnabled is set to false in about:config, this data won't be sent. <https://medium.com/georg-fritzsche/data-preference-changes-in-firefox-58-2d5df9c428b5 https://medium.com/georg-fritzsche/data-preference-changes-i...> There's likely to still be some non-telemetry chatter, like checking for available Firefox/plugin updates etc.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
  << this data won't be sent If there is one thing we should have learned over the past decade, it should be that if the data is collected, it will be sent. I followed the argument and I understand what you are saying. What I am saying is that it was not that long ago that FF decided to disable plugins remotely ( I think we even discussed it on HN[1]). What makes you think they won't one day push an update to just upload that local data? [1]https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2023/7/1.html https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2023/7/1.html
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    > What makes you think they won't one day push an update to just upload that local data? I'd imagine it's a buffer; presumably someone using Firefox for a decade with telemetry off won't accumulate ten years worth of telemetry pings.

ceejayoz 3y ago

Those largely appear to affect local collection of telemetry. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7k3r9u/mozilla_is_collecting_your_data_even_you_disabled/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7k3r9u/mozilla_is_... > Telemetry data is stored locally by default. As long as the relevant options in the settings' UI are unchecked, or datareporting.healthreport.uploadEnabled is set to false in about:config, this data won't be sent. <https://medium.com/georg-fritzsche/data-preference-changes-in-firefox-58-2d5df9c428b5 https://medium.com/georg-fritzsche/data-preference-changes-i...> There's likely to still be some non-telemetry chatter, like checking for available Firefox/plugin updates etc.

A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
<< this data won't be sent If there is one thing we should have learned over the past decade, it should be that if the data is collected, it will be sent. I followed the argument and I understand what you are saying. What I am saying is that it was not that long ago that FF decided to disable plugins remotely ( I think we even discussed it on HN[1]). What makes you think they won't one day push an update to just upload that local data? [1]https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2023/7/1.html https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2023/7/1.html
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  > What makes you think they won't one day push an update to just upload that local data? I'd imagine it's a buffer; presumably someone using Firefox for a decade with telemetry off won't accumulate ten years worth of telemetry pings.