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> Mozilla definitely hold a public perception of being more trustworthy than Google or Microsoft 100% true, definitely
by smegsicle 3y ago
> Mozilla definitely hold a public perception of being more trustworthy than Google or Microsoft
100% true, definitely
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- noman-land 3y agoMozilla, the legally registered non-profit foundation with a mission statement[0], for sure is more trustworthy than a for-profit data behemoth whose sole revenue comes from collecting as much data a possible, or a for-profit tech company with a history of corporate abuse and user hostile behavior. [0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/
- footlose_3815 3y agoI'm not trying to be a contrarian, but Google paid Firefox lots of money to force Google as the default search. Likely an offer they would refuse at their own peril, but I really liked how my search engine settings persisted when I reinstalled. Now it defaults to google. There's also a ton of promoted garbage on your homepage and privacy switches that need to be toggled off by default. Those settings don't carry-over when you sync your account settings. I still prefer Firefox, but they are not immune to the encroaching enshittification.
- PaulHoule 3y agoThere was the “thoroughly pizzled” pocket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autofac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autofac on the other hand Microsoft and Facebook are doing this all the time.
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- noman-land 3y agoI agree they're not immune whatsoever. In fact I hold them to a higher standard than the others because it's their mission to do it, so their failures sting much harder. But I hold the others to zero standard. There is less than zero trust there. I expect to be abused by them because their mandate requires them to ignore my wishes. It's not a failure but a success to them.
- tapoxi 3y agoThat's the Mozilla Foundation, the Mozilla Corporation is the for-profit developer of Firefox that's owned by the Foundation. If Mozilla never established the Corporation I'd give them more slack, but from a "it's nonprofit" perspective it's on the same level as IKEA, which is also owned by a nonprofit foundation.
- kbelder 3y agoFunny that I trust the Mozilla Corporation more than I trust the Mozilla Foundation.
- barbariangrunge 3y agoTechnically, google doesn't sell people's data. It uses data to train AIs to predict people's behaviour, modify that behaviour, modify attitudes/beliefs (it's an ad company), and eventually replace people
- noman-land 3y agoThanks, I updated my original post because how they profit from the data is immaterial to the fact that they want it and they coax people into letting them collect it.
- shawnz 3y agoDoesn't that more general statement now apply to anyone that collects telemetry, even for "noble" purposes, like Mozilla?
- noman-land 3y agoYes, opt-in by default telemetry is unethical.
- kortilla 3y agoIt sells a direct derivative of the data though, which is targeted ads.
- astrange 3y ago"Non-profits" are still just as motivated to increase revenue as "for-profits". Most US hospitals are non-profits but you still see people complaining about them.
- pseudalopex 3y agoDid they remove public perception or did you quote something they didn't say?