> Kubernetes doesn't come with its own networking. So, it's unfair to say that it affects networking, because it simply cannot do it. You're the one who brough

> Kubernetes doesn't come with its own networking. So, it's unfair to say that it affects networking, because it simply cannot do it. You're the one who brought it up? > My claim about performance tax is based on the idea that w/o Kubernetes you wouldn't need such translations (but, of course, you could build your own version of Kubernetes networking with a lot of software-defined virtualization, in which case you'd be in the same boat). You don't need any of those and I don't know why you think otherwise. You can just use the host network and do whatever you want, as with any container. > I'm not sure what point are you trying to make. That Kafka's architecture allows you to put data into partitions and route it based on that data, which allows for "shared nothing" architectures. But whatever, you're clearly not going to get this point from this example. To be clearer, your point of "you pay a cost here so you're losing performance" ignores that you can get performance elsewhere. > There aren't any meaningful isolation tools or approaches when it comes to microservices, because isolation at the level of service doesn't matter / is trivial to achieve by many other means / is not a problem in real-world programs. Not true at all. Services that own a domain of work are a great place to perform isolation and security boundaries. > Low on what scale? As in an actor is a foundational primitive for asynchronous computation. You have to build up protocols on top of actors, hence all of OTP. > I.e. words from the same general domain strung together, but make no sense. I think that's because I actually know what I'm talking about and you're finding it hard to keep up? > How did you count? Because it's obvious? Like it's not even close. Actor based systems are exceedingly rare, microservices are not. > I mean, in more simple language, this is talking out of your rear. It's not a real argument anyone should pay attention to. One of us actually knows what they're talking about and I doubt we'll agree who ti is.