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A computer uses 150kWh/year @ $0.42/kWh that is $75/year. Certainly internet is possible at $60/month so $720/year. Say you have a generous $500/5 years for equ
by Guvante 3y ago
A computer uses 150kWh/year @ $0.42/kWh that is $75/year. Certainly internet is possible at $60/month so $720/year. Say you have a generous $500/5 years for equipment plan and you are still below $1,000/year/employee.
Yes there are other expenses but you should already be providing a PC etc.
How are you getting to millions at a small company? Certainly a shop with 3,000 people is out a few million but... You have 3,000 people you are doing fine.
Heck with 20 people $1m is what $50k/person? You wouldn't spend that leasing everyone a Mercedes at $605/month.
- 535188B17C93743 3y ago$0.42/kWh!??! Jesus Christ. I think I'm paying around $0.0629/kWh. Where is this?
- syntaxing 3y agoI moved out of CA but it was already 0.40 a couple years ago. My friends told me it’s close to 0.60 now. I’m more curious where you are, I’m in a low(er) cost of living and I still pay 0.17.
- mwint 3y agoCalifornia.
- artursapek 3y ago[flagged]
- switch007 3y ago$0.06?! Jesus, where is that?!
- selectodude 3y agoSomewhere with real time pricing. The cheapest normal pricing is down around 12-13 cents per kWh. Granted due to the enormous nuclear base load in Chicago, I routinely pay 1-2 cents per kWh. I paid zero cents at 4am.
- switch007 3y agoJealous! Paying about $0.30 here in the UK
- 535188B17C93743 3y agoCentral Ohio [1]. I didn't realize it was so cheap. 1. https://www.betterbuyenergy.com/ https://www.betterbuyenergy.com/ - Zip 43215
- schmookeeg 3y agoPresumably PG&E territory in the bay area. We're in Alameda, who run their own utility and buys their power from PG&E and our rates are $0.15/kwh. I don't know how PG&E still exists as an entity, they were deserving of the pitchforks a long while ago.
- secabeen 3y agoThe cost of the power itself is not the driving cost of electricity, it's the distribution and grid maintenance costs. PG&E can sell power delivered easily and in bulk to Alameda in the heart of the bay area quite cheaply. Delivering the same kWh to all of the smaller communities in the rural north third of the PG&E coverage area is where much of the costs are.
- lazide 3y agoIn Sunnyvale, I averaged over $.50/kwh.
- Ductapemaster 3y agoHello fellow Alamedan! AMP is great — very grateful for a little abstraction between us an PG&E, despite it being all the same at the end of the day...
- networkchad 3y ago[dead]
- volkadav 3y agoWe're around there (hand-waving here about exchange rate) in Scotland. What's fucked up is that most of the UK's power is generated in the north and yet electricity rates are based on how far you are from London.
- scarab92 3y agoThat doesn't sound that crazy. Much of your energy bill is distribution costs, which is a combinational of infrastructure costs and transmission losses. Transmission losses will be small anywhere in the UK (because it's tiny), but infrastructure costs will vary a lot based on population density. It's cheaper to erect a few large transmission lines to London than it is to distribute power around the less dense North.
- compumike 3y agohttps://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_06_a https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph... “Average Price of Electricity to Ultimate Customers by End-Use Sector, by State, August 2023 and 2022 (Cents per Kilowatthour)” — according to this, both $0.42/kWh and $0.06/kWh would be outliers, relative to any state-wide residential averages.
- callalex 3y ago.42 is cheap for PG&E, it goes up to .6 at peak times. PG&E is completely corrupt and broken. Utilities do not belong in the private sector.
- Guvante 3y agoIt is the "you are using too much electricity" rate when having a non-TOU rate in SoCal. I figured I should aim high since the number was so low.
- m463 3y agoPG&E current rates: https://www.pge.com/tariffs/Res_Inclu_TOU_Current.xlsx https://www.pge.com/tariffs/Res_Inclu_TOU_Current.xlsx average billing is currently 38.2c/kwh
- dewaldr 3y agoPay for electricity and actually get it? Luxury! Here in South Africa the rate is about 0.15 (USD, depending on exchange rate), but they keep turning off the electricity because the state-owned utility cannot make enough of it. Load shedding they euphemistically call it instead of the blackouts it really is. Of course they also complain about loss of revenue because we use and thus pay for less kWh if they keep turning it off.
- xur17 3y ago> A computer uses 150kWh/year @ $0.42/kWh that is $75/year. Certainly internet is possible at $60/month so $720/year. Say you have a generous $500/5 years for equipment plan and you are still below $1,000/year/employee. So California is adding a bunch of administrative expenses for something that will net out to a few thousand dollars max per employee. Workers that have to go the office easily spend more than this on just commuting costs.
- jayd16 3y agoWhat's the admin expense? Won't it just be another line item in the paycheck? It's only an issue if the employer makes requests that exceed the that budget and get called out.
- xur17 3y agoIf it's just a fixed amount refunded to all employees, agreed there's no huge admin expense. If employees have different amounts (depending on their circumstances) that they get refunded, there is a lot of complexity required to set rules around what is acceptable, track receipts for these expenses, and have someone review and approve these. For example, we used expensify at a previous company, and ignoring the human admin cost, there was a $20 / expense report fee the company had to pay.
- interactivecode 3y agoSimple when someone gets hired they list their internet expenses. Also isnt this basic admin just the cost of doing business? I should probably not tell you that in europe its common to be reimbursed for traveling expenses when going to the office. Calculated per commute at 0.19 euro per kilometer. So its unique per employee. No company has gone bankrupt due to administrative weight yet.
- xur17 3y ago> No company has gone bankrupt due to administrative weight yet. Administrative weight has absolutely been a factor in companies collapsing. That's an absurd statement. And as a specific example, the company I work at just does a blanket credit for work from home expenses to every employee to avoid the administrative overhead. Yes it's not a huge admin overhead, but it's one more thing a company has to read and understand the rules on (in each state), enact policies / processes for, and have an employee process reimbursements for. Frankly, as an employee this just feels unnecessary. I'm already comparing the cost of commuting, work clothes, etc when deciding where to work. The "work from home expenses" end up being less than the "work from an office" expenses, so I'm not sure why California finds it necessary for employers to reimburse one but not the other. It's adding extra complexity for fairly limited benefit (something California seems to be great at).