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I don’t understand why people shouldn’t be allowed to enter into any sort of employment contract that they wish. As long as both parties are well informed then

I don’t understand why people shouldn’t be allowed to enter into any sort of employment contract that they wish. As long as both parties are well informed then they should be free to agree on what expenses will be covered and what won’t

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thehappypm 3y ago
Are you opposed to a minimum wage?
- changoplatanero 3y ago
  On principle, yes. The superbowl halftime show is a good example. As an observer, sometimes its hard to tell if the artist in the halftime show is being paid by the NFL to entertain the fans or if they are paying the NFL (effectively accepting a negative wage) for the chance to promote their personal brand. If they can accept a negative wage when they want why can't I be free to negotiate the same for myself?
  - ghaff 3y ago
    You pretty much can as a non-employee. I'm fully able to earn well below minimum wage writing a book for reputational purposes.
    - coffeebeqn 3y ago
      Heck - start a restaurant or something and make -$30k a year for a few years
- VirusNewbie 3y ago
  Yes, it is immoral. You are taking away someone’s freedom to willingly enter into a contract. Plenty of successful societies do not have a minimum wage.
  - pixl97 3y ago
    Do those same societies have strong social safety nets or otherwise public, low cost means of education and healthcare. Because if so, that's a really huge difference.
pixl97 3y ago
"Libertarian doesn't understand how democracy works" It doesn't matter if both parties are informed, the balance of power is what matters. It doesn't matter how well informed you are if your other option is starvation. Everyone, and I mean everyone I've ever met that makes this argument is coming from a position of power themselves. They some rare ability in a labor constrained market and want to generalized their situation to everyone without realizing the massive abuses that already occurred that mandated these rules in the first place.
- Ferret7446 3y ago
  If you can't work because there is no job, then your option is still starvation. The solution is a social safety net, not minimum wage and not both.

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thehappypm 3y ago

Are you opposed to a minimum wage?

changoplatanero 3y ago
On principle, yes. The superbowl halftime show is a good example. As an observer, sometimes its hard to tell if the artist in the halftime show is being paid by the NFL to entertain the fans or if they are paying the NFL (effectively accepting a negative wage) for the chance to promote their personal brand. If they can accept a negative wage when they want why can't I be free to negotiate the same for myself?
- ghaff 3y ago
  You pretty much can as a non-employee. I'm fully able to earn well below minimum wage writing a book for reputational purposes.
  - coffeebeqn 3y ago
    Heck - start a restaurant or something and make -$30k a year for a few years
VirusNewbie 3y ago
Yes, it is immoral. You are taking away someone’s freedom to willingly enter into a contract. Plenty of successful societies do not have a minimum wage.
- pixl97 3y ago
  Do those same societies have strong social safety nets or otherwise public, low cost means of education and healthcare. Because if so, that's a really huge difference.

pixl97 3y ago

"Libertarian doesn't understand how democracy works" It doesn't matter if both parties are informed, the balance of power is what matters. It doesn't matter how well informed you are if your other option is starvation. Everyone, and I mean everyone I've ever met that makes this argument is coming from a position of power themselves. They some rare ability in a labor constrained market and want to generalized their situation to everyone without realizing the massive abuses that already occurred that mandated these rules in the first place.

Ferret7446 3y ago
If you can't work because there is no job, then your option is still starvation. The solution is a social safety net, not minimum wage and not both.