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I responded to a comment on hostage and ransom negotiation business. Hostages aren't normally considered ransomware, although said negotiators would have excel

I responded to a comment on hostage and ransom negotiation business. Hostages aren't normally considered ransomware, although said negotiators would have excellent overlapping skill set. Travel.gov has an advisory for hostage taking in your country. I can assure you there are well spoken negotiators in your nation to deal with that.

nerdypirate 3y ago
I'm afraid, you are wrong, criminal gangs or masterminds are not that organized in Nigeria
- salamanderss 3y ago
  Cool here's a documentary with an English speaking hostage negotiator in Nigeria with family in the other side of the business (talks start around 4:30). I'm afraid, YOU are wrong. My opinion wasn't idle thought but derived from research on Nigeria rather than some weird borderline racist baseless rhetoric that Nigerians don't have this level of organization. https://youtube.com/watch?v=nG09Bo3uvAw https://youtube.com/watch?v=nG09Bo3uvAw
  - edgyquant 3y ago
    Didn’t vice catch a bunch of flack for over sensationalizing their “reporting?” Regardless I’d be more inclined to believe an actual Nigerian than a YouTube video. That person didn’t say there were zero people doing this, they said it wasn’t likely Nigeria had a widespread and systemic issue with organized crime doing this.
    - salamanderss 3y ago
      Cool let's deconstruct: >Didn’t vice catch a bunch of flack for over sensationalizing their “reporting?” Awesome ad hominem against the people recording actual Nigerians testimony. >Regardless I’d be more inclined to believe an actual Nigerian than a YouTube video And I provide video with actual Nigerians yet it's crickets from you when some guy just flippantly says I'm wrong with no supporting facts. Unless by actual Nigerians you want one to jump through the screen and talk to us... we're going to have to settle for electronic communication. It's what worth noting the Nigerian commenter above denied ransomware related activities but never denied the rest. >That person didn’t say there were zero people doing this, they said it wasn’t likely Nigeria had a widespread and systemic issue with organized crime doing this. They said what they said, not what you've retranslated them to say. I never said the issue was systemic, but if they really said that then their flippant dismissal was just as invalid as they'd be addressing a strawman.
- costco 3y ago
  Except a few billion a year in gift card, business email compromise, and romance scams. But yeah, Nigeria is not really a ransomware source country.

nerdypirate 3y ago

I'm afraid, you are wrong, criminal gangs or masterminds are not that organized in Nigeria

salamanderss 3y ago
Cool here's a documentary with an English speaking hostage negotiator in Nigeria with family in the other side of the business (talks start around 4:30). I'm afraid, YOU are wrong. My opinion wasn't idle thought but derived from research on Nigeria rather than some weird borderline racist baseless rhetoric that Nigerians don't have this level of organization. https://youtube.com/watch?v=nG09Bo3uvAw https://youtube.com/watch?v=nG09Bo3uvAw
- edgyquant 3y ago
  Didn’t vice catch a bunch of flack for over sensationalizing their “reporting?” Regardless I’d be more inclined to believe an actual Nigerian than a YouTube video. That person didn’t say there were zero people doing this, they said it wasn’t likely Nigeria had a widespread and systemic issue with organized crime doing this.
  - salamanderss 3y ago
    Cool let's deconstruct: >Didn’t vice catch a bunch of flack for over sensationalizing their “reporting?” Awesome ad hominem against the people recording actual Nigerians testimony. >Regardless I’d be more inclined to believe an actual Nigerian than a YouTube video And I provide video with actual Nigerians yet it's crickets from you when some guy just flippantly says I'm wrong with no supporting facts. Unless by actual Nigerians you want one to jump through the screen and talk to us... we're going to have to settle for electronic communication. It's what worth noting the Nigerian commenter above denied ransomware related activities but never denied the rest. >That person didn’t say there were zero people doing this, they said it wasn’t likely Nigeria had a widespread and systemic issue with organized crime doing this. They said what they said, not what you've retranslated them to say. I never said the issue was systemic, but if they really said that then their flippant dismissal was just as invalid as they'd be addressing a strawman.
costco 3y ago
Except a few billion a year in gift card, business email compromise, and romance scams. But yeah, Nigeria is not really a ransomware source country.