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This is such a PCMR elitist take. Have you ever actually played on console? By and large aim assist is very subtle, but it's required to have an enjoyable exp

This is such a PCMR elitist take. Have you ever actually played on console? By and large aim assist is very subtle, but it's required to have an enjoyable experience on console. I don't think I could bear to spend ~ 10h / day at a computer, and then spend my down time hunched over a keyboard and mouse. I like a clean break, and a completely different experience. You're welcome to be as 'competitive' as you like, but the rest of us want to come home, sink into their favorite recliner and casually enjoy a game for a an hour or two. It's a game. Games should be fun. I swear people act like their K/d ratio buys groceries.

everforward 3y ago
Games should be fun, but I do think competitive modes should have separate lobbies/ranks/queues for MKB and controller (maybe per-controller, if they're different enough). Aim assist is a big change to a game to me because it necessarily introduces an opinion about how much assistance controller users deserve into the equation. I get that controllers are not as precise of an input mechanism as mice, but how much worse? How much does having aim assist allow you to play a style that PC players can't? E.g. some implementations of aim assist make quick scoping very strong. It also just feels really crappy to watch a kill cam and know that if you had done the same thing, you would have missed because no aim assist. The reasons why make sense, it's not a logical thing, but it does feel bad. I would imagine dying to KBM flicks feels equally bad for controller players. I do think aim assist should exist for controllers, I just don't think it should co-exist with KBM in the same matches in competitive modes. Console players don't seem to like having KBM players in their matches either, so that seems like a win-win.
- goosedragons 3y ago
  Some games do have different matchmaking based on control type. The problem is some people use devices that let them use a KBM while pretending its a controller. While maybe some people use it to play some game that doesn't support KBM on console, there's definitely people that use them to get a leg up. KBM is a huge boost.
- emgeee 3y ago
  Most games don't have a big enough player base to support separate matchmaking pools
watwut 3y ago
For a person motivated by competition, opponents aim assists just kills the whole point of playing. That is not elitist, that is just being a person. His enjoyment is for him as important as yours for you. He is in fact entitled to play only games he likes to play is setup he finds fair. And he is fully entitled to express it out loud so that similarly minded people can bond or argue for existence of games they like.
- TheR3alGambit 3y ago
  Not every person plays cod. I guarantee if you loaded up siege on console you would see why mnk is a bad idea. Siege has aim assis and you can turn it off. Personally I have it off. But for new players and people who aren’t in the conventional sense “normal” they need a little help playing. And being competitive is different to abusing actual cheating and dropping 15k 0d in a ranked game against controller players.

everforward 3y ago

Games should be fun, but I do think competitive modes should have separate lobbies/ranks/queues for MKB and controller (maybe per-controller, if they're different enough). Aim assist is a big change to a game to me because it necessarily introduces an opinion about how much assistance controller users deserve into the equation. I get that controllers are not as precise of an input mechanism as mice, but how much worse? How much does having aim assist allow you to play a style that PC players can't? E.g. some implementations of aim assist make quick scoping very strong. It also just feels really crappy to watch a kill cam and know that if you had done the same thing, you would have missed because no aim assist. The reasons why make sense, it's not a logical thing, but it does feel bad. I would imagine dying to KBM flicks feels equally bad for controller players. I do think aim assist should exist for controllers, I just don't think it should co-exist with KBM in the same matches in competitive modes. Console players don't seem to like having KBM players in their matches either, so that seems like a win-win.

goosedragons 3y ago
Some games do have different matchmaking based on control type. The problem is some people use devices that let them use a KBM while pretending its a controller. While maybe some people use it to play some game that doesn't support KBM on console, there's definitely people that use them to get a leg up. KBM is a huge boost.
emgeee 3y ago
Most games don't have a big enough player base to support separate matchmaking pools

watwut 3y ago

For a person motivated by competition, opponents aim assists just kills the whole point of playing. That is not elitist, that is just being a person. His enjoyment is for him as important as yours for you. He is in fact entitled to play only games he likes to play is setup he finds fair. And he is fully entitled to express it out loud so that similarly minded people can bond or argue for existence of games they like.

TheR3alGambit 3y ago
Not every person plays cod. I guarantee if you loaded up siege on console you would see why mnk is a bad idea. Siege has aim assis and you can turn it off. Personally I have it off. But for new players and people who aren’t in the conventional sense “normal” they need a little help playing. And being competitive is different to abusing actual cheating and dropping 15k 0d in a ranked game against controller players.