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I think most historians agree that the Sea People invasions was a result of the migration crisis from Europe into the area. Whether the initial cause for this m

I think most historians agree that the Sea People invasions was a result of the migration crisis from Europe into the area. Whether the initial cause for this migration crisis was a volcano or some other disaster is kind of irrelevant to our discussion. What matter is something changed, causing people to need to migrate, causing wars and destruction, and an eventual collapse. The climate crisis isn’t just the sea-level rise, I think civilization would survive Florida and Bangladesh going under (but it will suck). But our climate crisis is this sea-level rise at the same time as a bunch of wild fires, more powerful hurricanes, crop failures, droughts, ocean acidification, etc. All of this in tangent will result in mass migration, just like the Sea Peoples, just in the opposite direction. And unless our governments change their border policies (unlikely) there will be wars and destruction in our remaining cities.

jandrese 3y ago
I think the current thinking is that the sea people were a symptom more than a cause of the collapse. The few surviving records talk about crop failures and widespread unrest even before the sea people appeared. You had a number of feudal kingdoms teetering on the brink of collapse and the sea people provided a convenient excuse for the rulers so they didn't have to blame themselves.
- runarberg 3y ago
  Exactly. As I understand it the invasions came as a result of a migration crisis, this migration crisis was also a symptom of the collapse, i.e. something else (most likely devastating volcanic eruptions followed by nuclear winder, crop failures, etc.) which made life in Europe really hard, forcing the migration. I imagine these migrants weren’t super welcomed into the more rich Bronze age cultures, otherwise perhaps the migration might have been less violent, and collapse could have been avoided.

jandrese 3y ago

I think the current thinking is that the sea people were a symptom more than a cause of the collapse. The few surviving records talk about crop failures and widespread unrest even before the sea people appeared. You had a number of feudal kingdoms teetering on the brink of collapse and the sea people provided a convenient excuse for the rulers so they didn't have to blame themselves.

runarberg 3y ago
Exactly. As I understand it the invasions came as a result of a migration crisis, this migration crisis was also a symptom of the collapse, i.e. something else (most likely devastating volcanic eruptions followed by nuclear winder, crop failures, etc.) which made life in Europe really hard, forcing the migration. I imagine these migrants weren’t super welcomed into the more rich Bronze age cultures, otherwise perhaps the migration might have been less violent, and collapse could have been avoided.