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This is how the cookie law should have been implemented and it was absolutely one hundred percent the fault of the lawmakers for not implementing it this way. T

This is how the cookie law should have been implemented and it was absolutely one hundred percent the fault of the lawmakers for not implementing it this way. The millions of hours bureaucracy has wasted having people click through banner pop-ups is entirely on the makers of the law, not the offenders.

anigbrowl 3y ago
Are you being sarcastic? Cultural mores are different in the EU, lawmakers there began with a presumption of basic good faith on the part of business which turned out to be lamentably lacking in the international market. This is 50% the fault of the people trying to circumvent/undermine the law rather than cooperate with it.
- emptysongglass 3y ago
  That is pure naivete and I'm saying this as a person who lives and works in the EU. It's time to get off our ethical high horse and treat corporations exactly as they expect to be treated.
- shadowgovt 3y ago
  > lawmakers there began with a presumption of basic good faith on the part of business which turned out to be lamentably lacking in the international market Did they learn their lesson? Because that was an incredibly foolish assumption out of the starting gate; from old-guard developers and companies' points of view, they were stomping into a sandbox they hadn't built and upsetting the status quo that was working; of course malicious compliance should have been anticipated.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  > EU, lawmakers there began with a presumption of basic good faith on the part of business Are you telling me that EU lawmakers were utterly naive to common left wing critiques of capitalism? That beggars belief.
alkonaut 3y ago
There is no “cookie law” and no mandate that banners are used etc. Regulation should try to avoid languages in specific technology as much as possible - and the GDPR does.
- shadowgovt 3y ago
  There's no mandate banners be used in the same sense that there's no "requirement" bungee jumping companies have you sign a waiver; they could just make the experience inherently safer, right? The banners were an extremely predictable outcome of a badly-crafted law.
  - alkonaut 3y ago
    I’m not sure how I’d improve the formulation in a way that would remove explicit questions.

anigbrowl 3y ago

Are you being sarcastic? Cultural mores are different in the EU, lawmakers there began with a presumption of basic good faith on the part of business which turned out to be lamentably lacking in the international market. This is 50% the fault of the people trying to circumvent/undermine the law rather than cooperate with it.

emptysongglass 3y ago
That is pure naivete and I'm saying this as a person who lives and works in the EU. It's time to get off our ethical high horse and treat corporations exactly as they expect to be treated.
shadowgovt 3y ago
> lawmakers there began with a presumption of basic good faith on the part of business which turned out to be lamentably lacking in the international market Did they learn their lesson? Because that was an incredibly foolish assumption out of the starting gate; from old-guard developers and companies' points of view, they were stomping into a sandbox they hadn't built and upsetting the status quo that was working; of course malicious compliance should have been anticipated.
mcpackieh 3y ago
> EU, lawmakers there began with a presumption of basic good faith on the part of business Are you telling me that EU lawmakers were utterly naive to common left wing critiques of capitalism? That beggars belief.

alkonaut 3y ago

There is no “cookie law” and no mandate that banners are used etc. Regulation should try to avoid languages in specific technology as much as possible - and the GDPR does.

shadowgovt 3y ago
There's no mandate banners be used in the same sense that there's no "requirement" bungee jumping companies have you sign a waiver; they could just make the experience inherently safer, right? The banners were an extremely predictable outcome of a badly-crafted law.
- alkonaut 3y ago
  I’m not sure how I’d improve the formulation in a way that would remove explicit questions.