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> a largely unregulated practice once confined to the ideological fringe Tell me your bias without telling me you're biased.

303uru 3y ago
What about that is untrue?
- generalizations 3y ago
  Nothing whatsoever - they are technically correct (the best kind of correct). And yet it is also a descriptor that is likely to prime the reader with a negative connotation. There's a reason that witness oaths require not only "nothing but the truth", but first of all "the whole truth".
  - voxic11 3y ago
    I read it as acknowledging a preconception the reader is likely to have and therefor building rapport with the reader, not necessarily a sign of bias by the author.
    - generalizations 3y ago
      That just sounds like bias with extra steps. Which subset of readers is the author choosing to build rapport with? Which subset are they choosing not to build rapport with? Why one, and not the other? And anyway, why build rapport at all - this isn't an opinion piece.
- HEmanZ 3y ago
  Is there some misunderstanding in English that “biased” means “factually false”? I’ve seen a lot of people on the internet confuse them as the same thing. Bias is supposed to mean something that is factual but presenting a one-sided opinion by e.g using a subset of facts and language meant to influence the readers opinion.
MilStdJunkie 3y ago
It's biased in the same way an unchoked shotgun shoots pellets with wider dispersion. K-12 education done independently, atomized from regional or national institutions, means people come out more different, so the edges of the cluster are further away. Homeschoolers are biased about 43% to white and rural, so it's pretty fair that the fring is going to be on that side of things. I'm kind of stumped as to how that's biased.
- zdragnar 3y ago
  You can't tell me with a straight face that public education is a uniform experience in the US. Just read through the comments other people have posted in subthreads here about their own experiences. My own school had a wide range of "don't bother learning, get pregnant and drop out" to "goes on to elite university" students, and everything in-between.
  - margalabargala 3y ago
    > You can't tell me with a straight face that public education is a uniform experience in the US. No one claimed that "public education is a uniform experience in the US". Did you reply to the wrong comment? Do you think the variability is wider among public schools, or among homeschools?
    - PuissantSheep 3y ago
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hotnfresh 3y ago
"Somalia—a country that once conjured images of famine and interminable civil unrest—" Is that snippet most likely an expression of bias, or is it most likely setting up to challenge bias?

303uru 3y ago

What about that is untrue?

generalizations 3y ago
Nothing whatsoever - they are technically correct (the best kind of correct). And yet it is also a descriptor that is likely to prime the reader with a negative connotation. There's a reason that witness oaths require not only "nothing but the truth", but first of all "the whole truth".
- voxic11 3y ago
  I read it as acknowledging a preconception the reader is likely to have and therefor building rapport with the reader, not necessarily a sign of bias by the author.
  - generalizations 3y ago
    That just sounds like bias with extra steps. Which subset of readers is the author choosing to build rapport with? Which subset are they choosing not to build rapport with? Why one, and not the other? And anyway, why build rapport at all - this isn't an opinion piece.
HEmanZ 3y ago
Is there some misunderstanding in English that “biased” means “factually false”? I’ve seen a lot of people on the internet confuse them as the same thing. Bias is supposed to mean something that is factual but presenting a one-sided opinion by e.g using a subset of facts and language meant to influence the readers opinion.

MilStdJunkie 3y ago

It's biased in the same way an unchoked shotgun shoots pellets with wider dispersion. K-12 education done independently, atomized from regional or national institutions, means people come out more different, so the edges of the cluster are further away. Homeschoolers are biased about 43% to white and rural, so it's pretty fair that the fring is going to be on that side of things. I'm kind of stumped as to how that's biased.

zdragnar 3y ago
You can't tell me with a straight face that public education is a uniform experience in the US. Just read through the comments other people have posted in subthreads here about their own experiences. My own school had a wide range of "don't bother learning, get pregnant and drop out" to "goes on to elite university" students, and everything in-between.
- margalabargala 3y ago
  > You can't tell me with a straight face that public education is a uniform experience in the US. No one claimed that "public education is a uniform experience in the US". Did you reply to the wrong comment? Do you think the variability is wider among public schools, or among homeschools?
  - PuissantSheep 3y ago
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hotnfresh 3y ago

"Somalia—a country that once conjured images of famine and interminable civil unrest—" Is that snippet most likely an expression of bias, or is it most likely setting up to challenge bias?