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Anyone who programs for a living should be making whatever preparations are possible for being replaced by an AI. If AIs are good at art they'll be better at co

by roenxi 3y ago

Anyone who programs for a living should be making whatever preparations are possible for being replaced by an AI. If AIs are good at art they'll be better at coding. I have sympathy for the artists, but frankly this is progress and it can't be stopped. The economics are so lop-sided in favour of silicon that the law won't be able to hold it back without crippling society at large. Artists aren't the only ones affected and they may not even be the profession most impacted.

myaccountonhn 3y ago
> I have sympathy for the artists, but frankly this is progress and it can't be stopped. Kinda sad that artists having their income even more crippled is seen as progress.
- ben_w 3y ago
  Some places have government grants funding the arts. On the other hand, I grew up in one of those places, the UK, and there were a lot of people moaning that the TV License (which funds the BBC) was an abominable stealth tax or words to that effect. I'm now in Germany, where everyone has to pay the equivalent even if they don't own a TV or watch live over the internet (unlike the UK where not doing that means you don't need to pay); I've not heard anyone complain so far… but I don't know if that's because they genuinely don't, or if I'm peacefully oblivious by never having been suckered into reading a German-language comments section.
- EnergyAmy 3y ago
  That's only true if artists cling to the old ways and reject new tools. Their income can increase if they embrace the new empowering tools becoming available.
- Kim_Bruning 3y ago
  At the moment I'm in the situation where having AI tools means I'm willing to try things I've never tried before; including having actually considered hiring artists for the first time ever. Sadly, I think most artists would bite my head off right this minute? So I guess I'm going to have to wait until the storm blows over.
beej71 3y ago
> If AIs are good at art they'll be better at coding. Not sure about that. It's like saying if AIs are good at art, they'll be better at math.
- ben_w 3y ago
  While the conclusion doesn't follow from the premise through the mere application of logic, I would note that when I was a kid all the high performance stuff was done in assembly "because compilers can't optimise properly", and yet since sometime around when I went to university (± a few years) we've all had compilers that are in almost all cases better at this than their operators. Also, GPT-3.5 is already a better coder than a few humans whose mistakes I've had to fix. 3.5 is nowhere near the best, yet it's already eating at the bottom rungs despite being free.

by roenxi 3y ago

myaccountonhn 3y ago

> I have sympathy for the artists, but frankly this is progress and it can't be stopped. Kinda sad that artists having their income even more crippled is seen as progress.

ben_w 3y ago
Some places have government grants funding the arts. On the other hand, I grew up in one of those places, the UK, and there were a lot of people moaning that the TV License (which funds the BBC) was an abominable stealth tax or words to that effect. I'm now in Germany, where everyone has to pay the equivalent even if they don't own a TV or watch live over the internet (unlike the UK where not doing that means you don't need to pay); I've not heard anyone complain so far… but I don't know if that's because they genuinely don't, or if I'm peacefully oblivious by never having been suckered into reading a German-language comments section.
EnergyAmy 3y ago
That's only true if artists cling to the old ways and reject new tools. Their income can increase if they embrace the new empowering tools becoming available.
Kim_Bruning 3y ago
At the moment I'm in the situation where having AI tools means I'm willing to try things I've never tried before; including having actually considered hiring artists for the first time ever. Sadly, I think most artists would bite my head off right this minute? So I guess I'm going to have to wait until the storm blows over.

beej71 3y ago

> If AIs are good at art they'll be better at coding. Not sure about that. It's like saying if AIs are good at art, they'll be better at math.

ben_w 3y ago
While the conclusion doesn't follow from the premise through the mere application of logic, I would note that when I was a kid all the high performance stuff was done in assembly "because compilers can't optimise properly", and yet since sometime around when I went to university (± a few years) we've all had compilers that are in almost all cases better at this than their operators. Also, GPT-3.5 is already a better coder than a few humans whose mistakes I've had to fix. 3.5 is nowhere near the best, yet it's already eating at the bottom rungs despite being free.