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Why does there seem to be zero interest in changing that? All I see is hope the EU would do something on one side and mockery of China and Russia for doing exac

by Garvi 3y ago

Why does there seem to be zero interest in changing that? All I see is hope the EU would do something on one side and mockery of China and Russia for doing exactly the same.

Kbelicius 3y ago
> mockery of China and Russia for doing exactly the same The only mentions of China and Russia in this thread is this post of yours. What are you referring to?
wkat4242 3y ago
> and mockery of China and Russia for doing exactly the same. Lol... As if China and Russia care anything about privacy. They are complete panopticons. You can't compare them with the EU. Which is a democracy unlike the others. The only reason China has this policy of storing Chinese users' data in China is so they can spy on them more easily, not because they want to give them more privacy.
- Garvi 3y ago
  The Chinese and Russians can read our news. We are blocked at reading theirs. What exactly is unclear in this situation?
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    I thought this was about the "our citizens data local" laws? In regards to Chinese and Russian "news" you're not missing anything as it's just propaganda anyway :)
  - mcpackieh 3y ago
    > We are blocked at reading theirs Maybe in Eurostan, but not in America.
    - Garvi 3y ago
      You just pretending harder. Letting them rape kids and get away with it? That's low. Every time I hear an American invoke child protection I laugh out loud remembering how the FBI executed Epstein and how protected pedophiles were in the Maxwell process. So no, there's not less censorship in the US than in the EU. You just gave up trying to say anything meaningful.
      - mcpackieh 3y ago
        I'm not pretending anything, jackass. Russian and Chinese state media is not blocked in America. I can read any of it whenever I want.
      - wkat4242 3y ago
        A few things that go wrong are definitely not the same thing as a complete lack of a free press or democracy.
rsynnott 3y ago
To some extent, in most fields, the US has become more a regulatory follower than a leader (the big exception would be finance; the SEC in particular is still hugely influential); it waits on, generally, the EU (or sometimes California) to do stuff, and then sometimes adopts it either de facto or de jure (for practical purposes, US auto emissions rules are dictated by California, and in practice the US gets most of the benefits of the RoHS just from it _existing_, say; California has actually adopted some of the RoHS in law). Now that the GDPR and CCPA have existed for a while, and the kinks are getting worked out (see, for instance, the article above), that lowers the cost of adoption, and will make GDPR-type rules an easier sell for US states who want to adopt them, or the US as a whole. Russia and China do not have GDPR-type protections (they do have some data locality rules, though for rather different reasons).

by Garvi 3y ago

Why does there seem to be zero interest in changing that? All I see is hope the EU would do something on one side and mockery of China and Russia for doing exactly the same.

Kbelicius 3y ago

> mockery of China and Russia for doing exactly the same The only mentions of China and Russia in this thread is this post of yours. What are you referring to?

wkat4242 3y ago

> and mockery of China and Russia for doing exactly the same. Lol... As if China and Russia care anything about privacy. They are complete panopticons. You can't compare them with the EU. Which is a democracy unlike the others. The only reason China has this policy of storing Chinese users' data in China is so they can spy on them more easily, not because they want to give them more privacy.

Garvi 3y ago
The Chinese and Russians can read our news. We are blocked at reading theirs. What exactly is unclear in this situation?
- wkat4242 3y ago
  I thought this was about the "our citizens data local" laws? In regards to Chinese and Russian "news" you're not missing anything as it's just propaganda anyway :)
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  > We are blocked at reading theirs Maybe in Eurostan, but not in America.
  - Garvi 3y ago
    You just pretending harder. Letting them rape kids and get away with it? That's low. Every time I hear an American invoke child protection I laugh out loud remembering how the FBI executed Epstein and how protected pedophiles were in the Maxwell process. So no, there's not less censorship in the US than in the EU. You just gave up trying to say anything meaningful.
    - mcpackieh 3y ago
      I'm not pretending anything, jackass. Russian and Chinese state media is not blocked in America. I can read any of it whenever I want.
    - wkat4242 3y ago
      A few things that go wrong are definitely not the same thing as a complete lack of a free press or democracy.

rsynnott 3y ago

To some extent, in most fields, the US has become more a regulatory follower than a leader (the big exception would be finance; the SEC in particular is still hugely influential); it waits on, generally, the EU (or sometimes California) to do stuff, and then sometimes adopts it either de facto or de jure (for practical purposes, US auto emissions rules are dictated by California, and in practice the US gets most of the benefits of the RoHS just from it _existing_, say; California has actually adopted some of the RoHS in law). Now that the GDPR and CCPA have existed for a while, and the kinks are getting worked out (see, for instance, the article above), that lowers the cost of adoption, and will make GDPR-type rules an easier sell for US states who want to adopt them, or the US as a whole. Russia and China do not have GDPR-type protections (they do have some data locality rules, though for rather different reasons).