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It's not about religion anymore. It's Russia, Iran, China and friends against all democracies.
by krislei 3y ago
It's not about religion anymore. It's Russia, Iran, China and friends against all democracies.
- coldtea 3y agoThat's the "lip-service to democracy" line from privileged (all the way to neo-colonial) powers. It's more like a handful of privileged countries behaving as if they own the world, and their client states (who the first have no problem if they're theocratic or dictatorships or brutal far right as long as they are their allies), against the developing world and any country with claims to sovereignity.
- timeon 3y agoI wonder where would you put countries like Norway or Poland.
- tazjin 3y agoNorway is a US client state; Poland could become sovereign but they're too busy trying to annoy literally everyone doing any business with them from any side, for whatever reason.
- hardware2win 3y agoWhat do you mean? Whats wrong with them?
- timeon 3y ago> Whats wrong with them? I do not thing there is something wrong. That is why I asked because this 'colonial' narrative seems often too vague. It is often just 'the west'.
- coldtea 3y agoNordic countries are traditional client states. Poland is semi-client with gradiose dreams of its own.
- 0dayz 3y agoGlad that you recognize China, Iran and Russia as privileged and spoiled countries.
- coldtea 3y ago[flagged]
- master_crab 3y agoThat’s a bit reductive. Brazil has great relations with all of these countries. Sounds more like great power rivalry.
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y agoYou should include Israel and Hamas in that list if you value morality, Israel chose to act like Russia in worse, Hamas chose to fully embrace their terrorist role instead of advocating for peace
- hartator 3y agoYes, both sides are super bad.
- thriftwy 3y agoRussia has (had?) good relations with Israel, despite a large number of differences with it. Then again, Russia would definitely benefit from the conflict if it heats up further.
- wolf550e 3y agoBibi tried to be friends with Putin and avoided sending weapons to Ukraine, while Russian PMCs Wagner and Redut trained Hamas. Hopefully Israel will be rethinking both the relationship with Russia and the relationship with Bibi.
- thriftwy 3y agoPutin tried to be friends with Bibi, while Israel bombed Russia's Syrian allies where they see fit, and paid lip service to Ukraine. In fact, still tries in the face of accusations that are flying around.
- worksonmine 3y ago> It's Russia, Iran, China and friends against all democracies. I love this kind of rhetoric, it implies we in the west are the democratic ones and dehumanizes the "enemy". The same wording has also been used to condone carpet bombing civilians the last weeks. "It's up to the democratic world". I don't think we are that much better, our leaders are just better at hiding their bullshit. But people willingly fall for the myth that we are somehow the "good guys". The way you put it's X, Y, Z and friends against us is also interesting. Have you considered it might be the other way around? Hasn't basically every president waited for a reason to fight the last boss in the middle east? We're very hungry for war in the west, don't fool yourself we're any better than the rest. We're not content with what we have, we will keep destabilizing the world until we own it all. The day every so-called leader answers to the US that's when we have world peace.