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> There is no jurisdiction that the legal patch doesn't apply to. I don’t think it applies to the US. The first amendment takes precedence over German laws. Th

> There is no jurisdiction that the legal patch doesn't apply to. I don’t think it applies to the US. The first amendment takes precedence over German laws. They can block access, but they can’t sue if there is no entity in Germany.

kstrauser 3y ago
I’ve had this argument so many times. If I told a European that an American law applied to them, they’d correctly explain why that’s nonsense. When I tell them that a European law doesn’t apply to me, an individual running a website hosted entirely in California, I’m told I’m an arrogant American. I like the GDPR. I’m glad we have CCPA here. I’m also glad I’m entirely outside the GDPR’s jurisdiction and I’m not subject to it.
- hartator 3y ago
  Yes, exactly. GDPR also includes restrictions of speech - you can’t talk about corruption convictions if they happen more then x years ago - that I wouldn’t mind the US going to war against Europe to shield these rights.
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    I agree (while clarifying that we're talking about a legal war, not a physical one, so bystanders don't need to come in and start yelling at us about it). I've had some luck in said arguments by pointing out that Chinese law forbids certain content, and asking if they abide by it. It's interesting to discuss why EU law should apply to non-EU hosts, but Chinese law should not apply to non-Chinese sites.
- literalAardvark 3y ago
  Well, they'd be incorrect in any but the strictest sense. Whatever the US wants to enforce, gets enforced. The DMCA, for instance. And a small company might be able to ignore the gdpr, but the owners would still potentially get in potentially serious legal trouble. There are quite a lot of extradition treaties in the world. That being said, the EU has been very slow on gdpr enforcement so yeah, it's currently toothless.

kstrauser 3y ago

I’ve had this argument so many times. If I told a European that an American law applied to them, they’d correctly explain why that’s nonsense. When I tell them that a European law doesn’t apply to me, an individual running a website hosted entirely in California, I’m told I’m an arrogant American. I like the GDPR. I’m glad we have CCPA here. I’m also glad I’m entirely outside the GDPR’s jurisdiction and I’m not subject to it.

hartator 3y ago
Yes, exactly. GDPR also includes restrictions of speech - you can’t talk about corruption convictions if they happen more then x years ago - that I wouldn’t mind the US going to war against Europe to shield these rights.
- kstrauser 3y ago
  I agree (while clarifying that we're talking about a legal war, not a physical one, so bystanders don't need to come in and start yelling at us about it). I've had some luck in said arguments by pointing out that Chinese law forbids certain content, and asking if they abide by it. It's interesting to discuss why EU law should apply to non-EU hosts, but Chinese law should not apply to non-Chinese sites.
literalAardvark 3y ago
Well, they'd be incorrect in any but the strictest sense. Whatever the US wants to enforce, gets enforced. The DMCA, for instance. And a small company might be able to ignore the gdpr, but the owners would still potentially get in potentially serious legal trouble. There are quite a lot of extradition treaties in the world. That being said, the EU has been very slow on gdpr enforcement so yeah, it's currently toothless.