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You are one of the good people. Unfortunately, many will go the easy route: What it will do is that even more websites won't be available over here, and direct

You are one of the good people. Unfortunately, many will go the easy route: What it will do is that even more websites won't be available over here, and direct to a 451 ("Unavailable due to legal restrictions") error. This fragmentises the net.

account42 3y ago
The best way to fix that is for other countries to start improving their consumer protection laws so cutting off "problem" countries becomes less and less feasible for unscrupulous businesses. Meanwhile (slightly) more ethical companies can take over the EU market.
pbmonster 3y ago
Do you have any examples for that phenomenon? I use a lot of news aggregators, and never once got a link to a 451. I think part of that is also that it's not foolproof to identify where a user is connecting from. Because I think legally, you can't use "but that user had an US IP address" as an excuse why you broke EU law against an EU citizen connecting from inside the EU.
- BlueTemplar 3y ago
  Why not ?
  - lupire 3y ago
    Because if you're not sure where a user is, you can do the right thing instead of guessing.
hawk_ 3y ago
EU is a massive market. If some unscrupulous businesses don't provide their services here, I'd say good riddance. If there's enough demand, other businesses will take over.
- nvm0n2 3y ago
  Who has taken over from Threads?
speedgoose 3y ago
I find it a bit hypocritical to associate the unauthorised tracking of visitors, usually for advertising purposes, with the themes of the Fahrenheit 451 book, which are are censorship, conformity vs individualism, the destructive role of technology, and the loss of critical thinking.
- plagiarist 3y ago
  On the contrary, I think it's very true to the spirit of lost critical thinking. Every single consumer protection has people show up on the side of the giant corporations. Usually a libertarian type with no clue how furious they would be if they got what they were asking for.
  - shadowgovt 3y ago
    Most of us were getting what we asked for before the EU dropped the GDPR on us to claim ownership of the sandbox they didn't build. ;)
- jampekka 3y ago
  Isn't that just what advertising does?
BiteCode_dev 3y ago
I would love that. Makes more money for us since we can now build competitive service more easily.
wredue 3y ago
We shouldn’t do consumer protections because then businesses who ignore consumer protections might not do business Isn’t quite the argument you think it is.
- deleted 3y ago
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account42 3y ago

The best way to fix that is for other countries to start improving their consumer protection laws so cutting off "problem" countries becomes less and less feasible for unscrupulous businesses. Meanwhile (slightly) more ethical companies can take over the EU market.

pbmonster 3y ago

Do you have any examples for that phenomenon? I use a lot of news aggregators, and never once got a link to a 451. I think part of that is also that it's not foolproof to identify where a user is connecting from. Because I think legally, you can't use "but that user had an US IP address" as an excuse why you broke EU law against an EU citizen connecting from inside the EU.

BlueTemplar 3y ago
Why not ?
- lupire 3y ago
  Because if you're not sure where a user is, you can do the right thing instead of guessing.

hawk_ 3y ago

EU is a massive market. If some unscrupulous businesses don't provide their services here, I'd say good riddance. If there's enough demand, other businesses will take over.

nvm0n2 3y ago
Who has taken over from Threads?

speedgoose 3y ago

I find it a bit hypocritical to associate the unauthorised tracking of visitors, usually for advertising purposes, with the themes of the Fahrenheit 451 book, which are are censorship, conformity vs individualism, the destructive role of technology, and the loss of critical thinking.

plagiarist 3y ago
On the contrary, I think it's very true to the spirit of lost critical thinking. Every single consumer protection has people show up on the side of the giant corporations. Usually a libertarian type with no clue how furious they would be if they got what they were asking for.
- shadowgovt 3y ago
  Most of us were getting what we asked for before the EU dropped the GDPR on us to claim ownership of the sandbox they didn't build. ;)
jampekka 3y ago
Isn't that just what advertising does?

BiteCode_dev 3y ago

I would love that. Makes more money for us since we can now build competitive service more easily.

wredue 3y ago

We shouldn’t do consumer protections because then businesses who ignore consumer protections might not do business Isn’t quite the argument you think it is.

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