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What are those "European values" you speak of? I am in Europe and I shiver at the thought of others assuming that I feel the same way about certain issues than

by vasdae 3y ago

What are those "European values" you speak of? I am in Europe and I shiver at the thought of others assuming that I feel the same way about certain issues than someone who lives all the way across the continent.

fodkodrasz 3y ago
I'm not sure in which part of Europe you live, but in some parts these are part of the high-school and university curriculum (civics classes). Here is a refresher: > # Freedom > Freedom of movement gives citizens the right to move and reside freely within the Union. *Individual freedoms such as respect for private life, freedom of thought*, religion, assembly, expression and information are protected by the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. > >[..] > > # Human rights > Human rights are protected by the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. These cover the right to be free from discrimination on the basis of sex, racial or ethnic origin, religion or belief, disability, age or sexual orientation, *the right to the protection of your personal data, and the right to get access to justice*. (excerpt, emphasis mine based on current context, original: https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-history/principles-and-values/aims-and-values_en https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-histor...) These basic rights (considered parts of the so called European values) are often infringed by US companies employing extensive surveillance. Hope I could help. t. Eastern European assuming the desire for privacy is a universal European value, not only thought in school curriculum.
- vasdae 3y ago
  That part with the "individual freedoms" is laughable. We lack most of those, especially if they conflict with the "human rights" part.
  - Kbelicius 3y ago
    > That part with the "individual freedoms" is laughable. We lack most of those, especially if they conflict with the "human rights" part. Care to explain what part is laughable or are you just preaching to some "government bad!" choir?
  - praestigiare 3y ago
    You would not believe just how comfortable I am with you lacking the individual freedom to violate human rights.
    - preciousoo 3y ago
      I can’t believe a real human just complained about not being free to supress others human rights (I definitely can believe it)
  - schleck8 3y ago
    I think we found him, the biggest victim on the continent. Noone is as persecuted as this guy. Some political opponent in North Korea? An unarmed minority in Mali? Nothing compared to user vasdae.

by vasdae 3y ago

fodkodrasz 3y ago

I'm not sure in which part of Europe you live, but in some parts these are part of the high-school and university curriculum (civics classes). Here is a refresher: > # Freedom > Freedom of movement gives citizens the right to move and reside freely within the Union. *Individual freedoms such as respect for private life, freedom of thought*, religion, assembly, expression and information are protected by the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. > >[..] > > # Human rights > Human rights are protected by the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. These cover the right to be free from discrimination on the basis of sex, racial or ethnic origin, religion or belief, disability, age or sexual orientation, *the right to the protection of your personal data, and the right to get access to justice*. (excerpt, emphasis mine based on current context, original: https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-history/principles-and-values/aims-and-values_en https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-histor...) These basic rights (considered parts of the so called European values) are often infringed by US companies employing extensive surveillance. Hope I could help. t. Eastern European assuming the desire for privacy is a universal European value, not only thought in school curriculum.

vasdae 3y ago
That part with the "individual freedoms" is laughable. We lack most of those, especially if they conflict with the "human rights" part.
- Kbelicius 3y ago
  > That part with the "individual freedoms" is laughable. We lack most of those, especially if they conflict with the "human rights" part. Care to explain what part is laughable or are you just preaching to some "government bad!" choir?
- praestigiare 3y ago
  You would not believe just how comfortable I am with you lacking the individual freedom to violate human rights.
  - preciousoo 3y ago
    I can’t believe a real human just complained about not being free to supress others human rights (I definitely can believe it)
- schleck8 3y ago
  I think we found him, the biggest victim on the continent. Noone is as persecuted as this guy. Some political opponent in North Korea? An unarmed minority in Mali? Nothing compared to user vasdae.