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"Gattica" is a great movie that runs with this. The entire society is built on separation on DNA and designer genetics.

tick_tock_tick 3y ago
Gattaca while a great movie always rubbed me wrong as at the end it turns out society was "right" and he probably doomed the mission. His heart was "bad" it turns the whole movie from someone overcoming societal limitation to someone ruining the space mission so they can see space.
- adhesive_wombat 3y ago
  Also a heart 10000 beats overdue is about 3 hours! Even a million beats is well under 2 weeks.
- renegade-otter 3y ago
  "The poors who somehow got into this fine dining establishment through all the obstacles we have carefully constructed are really ruining the vibe here!" The space mission may not be the perfect allegory, but that's just nitpicking. How many people watched Gattaca and thought, "Oh no! That crippled tool ruined the space mission! Not my tax dollars oh my stars!"
  - vGPU 3y ago
    > his genetic profile indicates a high probability of several disorders and an estimated lifespan of 30.2 years. That seems to be a very valid reason to not send someone on a space mission.
    - renegade-otter 3y ago
      And many people get well from placebo medication. We don’t fully understand human willpower and its ability to overcome the cards we were dealt at birth. The whole movie is literally about how genetics is not destiny.
      - lotsofpulp 3y ago
        Just because the movie claims it does not mean it is true. Genetics may partly, or even significantly, be destiny.
      - vGPU 3y ago
        Willpower won’t fix a congenital heart defect.
- jbjohns 3y ago
  I thought the point was that society was completely wrong and was basically overhyping the thing they'd all bought into. They had decided their method was so superior that naturally born people wouldn't live past 30. He'd already well beaten that, outlived his parents and didn't seem sick now. Society was far removed from reality and somehow forgot that natural birth worked fine for all but very recent human history. I find this statement about how society works more compelling than the cautionary about genetic discrimination.

Gattaca while a great movie always rubbed me wrong as at the end it turns out society was "right" and he probably doomed the mission. His heart was "bad" it turns the whole movie from someone overcoming societal limitation to someone ruining the space mission so they can see space.

adhesive_wombat 3y ago
Also a heart 10000 beats overdue is about 3 hours! Even a million beats is well under 2 weeks.
renegade-otter 3y ago
"The poors who somehow got into this fine dining establishment through all the obstacles we have carefully constructed are really ruining the vibe here!" The space mission may not be the perfect allegory, but that's just nitpicking. How many people watched Gattaca and thought, "Oh no! That crippled tool ruined the space mission! Not my tax dollars oh my stars!"
- vGPU 3y ago
  > his genetic profile indicates a high probability of several disorders and an estimated lifespan of 30.2 years. That seems to be a very valid reason to not send someone on a space mission.
  - renegade-otter 3y ago
    And many people get well from placebo medication. We don’t fully understand human willpower and its ability to overcome the cards we were dealt at birth. The whole movie is literally about how genetics is not destiny.
    - lotsofpulp 3y ago
      Just because the movie claims it does not mean it is true. Genetics may partly, or even significantly, be destiny.
    - vGPU 3y ago
      Willpower won’t fix a congenital heart defect.
jbjohns 3y ago
I thought the point was that society was completely wrong and was basically overhyping the thing they'd all bought into. They had decided their method was so superior that naturally born people wouldn't live past 30. He'd already well beaten that, outlived his parents and didn't seem sick now. Society was far removed from reality and somehow forgot that natural birth worked fine for all but very recent human history. I find this statement about how society works more compelling than the cautionary about genetic discrimination.