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Well, price includes membership for the sect of ‘good morning, Amazing’… Honestly I feel much more in place with a win11 setup recently. For a dev who does not

by larodi 3y ago

Well, price includes membership for the sect of ‘good morning, Amazing’… Honestly I feel much more in place with a win11 setup recently. For a dev who does not rely on apple’s Xcode etc it makes very little difference. Besides win11 is scary snappy on every decent box, not only Microsoft surfaces. And except for the speed gains, the gains from using OSX have been diminishing rapidly for years. Sticking with osx12 on some devices does not impact my workflow at all. I guess I can go back to 10.x and … VScode, git, etc will still work the same. Speaking of security et al - well that’s fine, but some of the most aggressive hacks are targeted at OSX.

baz00 3y ago
Agree on all counts. I'm mostly just happy since I switched back to windows 11 that I've got an OS I can actually drive from a keyboard that doesn't leave my hands brutally mangled from meta key combinations.
- irusensei 3y ago
  No doubt current day Windows is a capable device for all tasks. Too bad it treats you like a free user by clogging your operating system with ads while spying on you like a crazy stalker.
  - baz00 3y ago
    I don't get any ads. But yeah I'll give you that on the Telemetry.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    Honestly it doesn't feel any different for me on MacOS. Both OSes push first-party music and cloud services, both OSes beg you to use their browser, both OSes show news with their own built-in ad networks. At this point for Windows 11 and MacOS 13, I'm shocked how little these OSes have meaningfully changed since the early 2000s. Both companies feel like they're taking a detour around user empowerment to focus on Selling Moar Services™. While we're looking at things from a retro-idealist lens, even Android and iOS seem unnecessarily bloated. It feels like the vast majority of every FAANG's engineering effort goes into crippling the user nowadays.
- pr0zac 3y ago
  Almost 24 hours later so likely you won’t see this, but I’m interested what your setup is hardware (monitors) wise and workflow wise that works best on Windows? I’m pretty platform agnostic. I own and relatively regularly use Windows, Linux, and MacOS machines and have spent time using each as my main work system in the last five years. I currently use a single 49” monitor and I’ve found MacOS with Amethyst for tiling and window management plays the nicest on it but your comment about hand mangling (and never completely remembered) meta key combos definitely rings true. I haven’t found anything on Windows or Linux that doesn’t have the same issues though. It’s possible I’m irrationally afraid of mistypes and overly avoid single meta key combos on any system.
jesseendahl 3y ago
Genuine question: have you actually used a modern Mac? OS X was renamed macOS 7 years ago in 2016.
- baz00 3y ago
  I have used it for the last 15 years and it hasn't got worse and hasn't got better. It has barely changed. It is done. However there are load of little annoying bugs (Reminders makes me want to kill people) and the developer story on the platform is a mess now. Literally minor releases will break things I use on a regular basis. Last month they broke something that broke Maxima (mathematical CAS) for me. I have to use that, so off to windows it is.
- DerekL 3y ago
  Also, it was never called “OSX”.
AmVess 3y ago
I've been using M1 since it came out. Loved it. Fast, snappy, smooth. Prior to that, I had a Dell XPS that ran loud and always felt laggy to use. I was going to upgrade to M2, but $2k+ for an essentially base laptop. Nah. I grabbed a new Zenbook 14 OLED w/current gen i7. Metal chassis, nice keyboard, nice trackpad. Nice 120Hz screen. Solid construction. Windows 11 which I have gotten used to. It feels pretty well polished in terms of hardware and OS. Feels snappy. i7 is a wonderful, fast CPU. While it isn't an M2 Mac, an M2 Mac is no longer wildly better than a good Windows laptop. The $1300 difference for the same performance is a strong selling point for the Zenbook which is 96% as good as an M2.
- karmakaze 3y ago
  That sounds great! How's the battery life? Theoretically using large black terminal windows can maximize it.
- brailsafe 3y ago
  Why did you need to change computers at all? If you had an M1 mac, seems like a weird choice to want to replace it with what seems like a horizontal move

by larodi 3y ago

baz00 3y ago

Agree on all counts. I'm mostly just happy since I switched back to windows 11 that I've got an OS I can actually drive from a keyboard that doesn't leave my hands brutally mangled from meta key combinations.

irusensei 3y ago
No doubt current day Windows is a capable device for all tasks. Too bad it treats you like a free user by clogging your operating system with ads while spying on you like a crazy stalker.
- baz00 3y ago
  I don't get any ads. But yeah I'll give you that on the Telemetry.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Honestly it doesn't feel any different for me on MacOS. Both OSes push first-party music and cloud services, both OSes beg you to use their browser, both OSes show news with their own built-in ad networks. At this point for Windows 11 and MacOS 13, I'm shocked how little these OSes have meaningfully changed since the early 2000s. Both companies feel like they're taking a detour around user empowerment to focus on Selling Moar Services™. While we're looking at things from a retro-idealist lens, even Android and iOS seem unnecessarily bloated. It feels like the vast majority of every FAANG's engineering effort goes into crippling the user nowadays.
pr0zac 3y ago
Almost 24 hours later so likely you won’t see this, but I’m interested what your setup is hardware (monitors) wise and workflow wise that works best on Windows? I’m pretty platform agnostic. I own and relatively regularly use Windows, Linux, and MacOS machines and have spent time using each as my main work system in the last five years. I currently use a single 49” monitor and I’ve found MacOS with Amethyst for tiling and window management plays the nicest on it but your comment about hand mangling (and never completely remembered) meta key combos definitely rings true. I haven’t found anything on Windows or Linux that doesn’t have the same issues though. It’s possible I’m irrationally afraid of mistypes and overly avoid single meta key combos on any system.

jesseendahl 3y ago

Genuine question: have you actually used a modern Mac? OS X was renamed macOS 7 years ago in 2016.

baz00 3y ago
I have used it for the last 15 years and it hasn't got worse and hasn't got better. It has barely changed. It is done. However there are load of little annoying bugs (Reminders makes me want to kill people) and the developer story on the platform is a mess now. Literally minor releases will break things I use on a regular basis. Last month they broke something that broke Maxima (mathematical CAS) for me. I have to use that, so off to windows it is.
DerekL 3y ago
Also, it was never called “OSX”.

AmVess 3y ago

I've been using M1 since it came out. Loved it. Fast, snappy, smooth. Prior to that, I had a Dell XPS that ran loud and always felt laggy to use. I was going to upgrade to M2, but $2k+ for an essentially base laptop. Nah. I grabbed a new Zenbook 14 OLED w/current gen i7. Metal chassis, nice keyboard, nice trackpad. Nice 120Hz screen. Solid construction. Windows 11 which I have gotten used to. It feels pretty well polished in terms of hardware and OS. Feels snappy. i7 is a wonderful, fast CPU. While it isn't an M2 Mac, an M2 Mac is no longer wildly better than a good Windows laptop. The $1300 difference for the same performance is a strong selling point for the Zenbook which is 96% as good as an M2.

karmakaze 3y ago
That sounds great! How's the battery life? Theoretically using large black terminal windows can maximize it.
brailsafe 3y ago
Why did you need to change computers at all? If you had an M1 mac, seems like a weird choice to want to replace it with what seems like a horizontal move