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I'd probably struggle to name three living painters (the claim in the title wasn't about "artists" but "painters"). It feels like a moribund artform, there's no

by jsnell 3y ago

I'd probably struggle to name three living painters (the claim in the title wasn't about "artists" but "painters"). It feels like a moribund artform, there's no such thing as a mainstream painter any more. If there's fame to be had in it, it's mostly due to the art being attached to something else (comics, games, or in this particular case TikTok videos) rather than as standalone pieces of art. It's actually kind of interesting. There's tons of living actors, authors, directors, and musicians that are household names on a global scale. But architects, painters, poets or sculptors? Everyone I can think of is dead.

lmm 3y ago
> I'd probably struggle to name three living painters (the claim in the title wasn't about "artists" but "painters"). Hockney, Hirst (even if he only moved into painting fairly recently), Kit Williams. But yeah I'm struggling to come up with a fourth. > It's actually kind of interesting. There's tons of living actors, authors, directors, and musicians that are household names on a global scale. But architects, painters, poets or sculptors? Everyone I can think of is dead. Architects I disagree with, but for the rest there's a lot more competition lately. Painting never really recovered its social standing after the rise of photography. There are a lot of alternatives to a poetry reading, many of them more enjoyable or at least more accessible.
- denton-scratch 3y ago
  > Hockney, Hirst (even if he only moved into painting fairly recently), Kit Williams. But yeah I'm struggling to come up with a fourth. Tracy Emin seems to be able to paint (she's better known for "installations"). But she's well-known, she's alive, and she's a painter.
  - lmm 3y ago
    > seems to be able to paint... she's a painter. That's perhaps a stretch; plenty of public figures have painted on occasion, maybe even sold a painting or two, but would not be considered painters.
    - denton-scratch 3y ago
      She's not a mere dauber. She's skilled. She's not just a "conceptual artist". I thought Picasso was all about revolutionizing art, until I visited the Picasso Museum in Barcelona, and saw his juvenilia. Then I realized that he was an extremely skilled draughtsman, anatomist and figurative painter. I'm not keen on Tracy Emin, but I was mistaken to underestimate her.
seanthemon 3y ago
Please see: James Gurney, Marco Bucci and Nathan Fowkes. You may have seen their paintings in movies or books
defrost 3y ago
Rolf Harris hasn't kicked the bucket yet, more's the pity.
trimethylpurine 3y ago
> There's tons of living actors, authors, directors, and musicians that are household names on a global scale. But architects, painters, poets or sculptors? It's music too. The largest concerts in history according to Wikipedia belong to Vasco Rossi, Bijelo Dugme, and Glay. Ever heard of them? I suspect we're simply unaware of the marketing bias we're all walking around with.

by jsnell 3y ago

lmm 3y ago

> I'd probably struggle to name three living painters (the claim in the title wasn't about "artists" but "painters"). Hockney, Hirst (even if he only moved into painting fairly recently), Kit Williams. But yeah I'm struggling to come up with a fourth. > It's actually kind of interesting. There's tons of living actors, authors, directors, and musicians that are household names on a global scale. But architects, painters, poets or sculptors? Everyone I can think of is dead. Architects I disagree with, but for the rest there's a lot more competition lately. Painting never really recovered its social standing after the rise of photography. There are a lot of alternatives to a poetry reading, many of them more enjoyable or at least more accessible.

denton-scratch 3y ago
> Hockney, Hirst (even if he only moved into painting fairly recently), Kit Williams. But yeah I'm struggling to come up with a fourth. Tracy Emin seems to be able to paint (she's better known for "installations"). But she's well-known, she's alive, and she's a painter.
- lmm 3y ago
  > seems to be able to paint... she's a painter. That's perhaps a stretch; plenty of public figures have painted on occasion, maybe even sold a painting or two, but would not be considered painters.
  - denton-scratch 3y ago
    She's not a mere dauber. She's skilled. She's not just a "conceptual artist". I thought Picasso was all about revolutionizing art, until I visited the Picasso Museum in Barcelona, and saw his juvenilia. Then I realized that he was an extremely skilled draughtsman, anatomist and figurative painter. I'm not keen on Tracy Emin, but I was mistaken to underestimate her.

seanthemon 3y ago

Please see: James Gurney, Marco Bucci and Nathan Fowkes. You may have seen their paintings in movies or books

defrost 3y ago

Rolf Harris hasn't kicked the bucket yet, more's the pity.

trimethylpurine 3y ago

> There's tons of living actors, authors, directors, and musicians that are household names on a global scale. But architects, painters, poets or sculptors? It's music too. The largest concerts in history according to Wikipedia belong to Vasco Rossi, Bijelo Dugme, and Glay. Ever heard of them? I suspect we're simply unaware of the marketing bias we're all walking around with.