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And still starting at 8GB of RAM… Disappointed.

paustint 3y ago
Seriously.... My 16gb MacBook pro M1 work machine runs out of memory constantly. I had a MacBook air 8gb and it was useless, it would freeze constantly and have crackly audio. I found that 24GB ram is really the minimum that is usable on M-series when doing any type of basic work. Likely an output of so many electron based apps which are memory hungry, but if the memory is supposedly "really fast" then I would expect better performance. Never had the issue with Intel. But with a nice bit or memory, the performance is really nice.
- skybrian 3y ago
  A contrasting data point: I have an 8gb M2 and haven’t noticed any problem yet that made me wish I had more memory. I’m not using it for work, though.
- kanwisher 3y ago
  You are only person in thread that says this. I still have one laptop is a M1 air 16gb. Still fastest computer I have ever owned outside of my MBP, I really only mbp for AI training everything else runs great on air still
- sgt 3y ago
  I'm on 16GB which seems plenty - running many JetBrain's IDE's at the same time, browsers, VM's etc. I know people with the 8GB version and they are fine too. Could be that your machine is faulty somehow and that it's not the RAM but something else.
- wickedsickeune 3y ago
  I'm using Unity (uber wasteful) and Rider (Java) and an M1 air with 8GB is fine, no slowdown whatsoever* (compared to my desktop with 32GB on Windows). RAM is not the bottleneck in *NIX OSes, unless you do something that specifically requires a lot of RAM (eg machine learning) *compiling is slower, but the desktop has a much faster CPU
- Toutouxc 3y ago
  > 24GB ram is really the minimum that is usable on M-series when doing any type of basic work M1 Air with 16 GB RAM. I have RubyMine (JetBrains IDE), an application server running Rails, MariaDB, MongoDB, Redis, Slack, Safari and Apple Music running, and DxO PhotoLab 7 loaded on the non-work desktop space and clicking through some photos I took yesterday. Memory pressure green, laptop chilling at 30 °C.
- asadm 3y ago
  Not sure what workflow you are on but I have a few IDEs, simulators, electron apps, etc. on my 16gb m1 pro. I haven't ever had memory issues.
- turquoisevar 3y ago
  You might want to get that checked out I’ve got a 8GB Mac mini, 16GB iMac and a 64GB MBP, all on Apple Silicon. In 99% of the cases I can’t tell a difference in responsiveness or use and my main use is app development in Xcode and high resolution photo and video editing. Even when actively monitoring things I mainly see a difference in memory compression, not so much in swap. As for Intel, before Apple Silicon I had the most tricked out Intel MBP and I’d rather chop my left arm off and be stuck in a bunker for a year with just the 8GB Mac mini than have to use that the Intel MBP is had. Unless perhaps the bunker has no heating, in which case I might have to reconsider.
shpx 3y ago
You're saying people shouldn't be able to buy 8GB RAM Macs, which is crazy. I had to check how much memory my laptop has, and it's 8GB and I've never noticed. I guess you're just complaining about what you get for the lowest price.
- guax 3y ago
  The lowest price is still a very high price that justifies the low end being 16. This is not a baseless complaint. And no, it's almost 2024, people should not be able to buy 8gb RAM computers when they're soldered in and 1k+ in price.
- daveoc64 3y ago
  For the price and a supposedly "Pro" model, having 8GB of non-replaceable RAM is ludicrous.
olliej 3y ago
and yet at this point pretty much expected. So obnoxious and odious - the reality is for any C/C++/rust or similar compilation you need a minimum of 1gb per compilation core for compilation alone, before you consider the rest of the OS :-/

Seriously.... My 16gb MacBook pro M1 work machine runs out of memory constantly. I had a MacBook air 8gb and it was useless, it would freeze constantly and have crackly audio. I found that 24GB ram is really the minimum that is usable on M-series when doing any type of basic work. Likely an output of so many electron based apps which are memory hungry, but if the memory is supposedly "really fast" then I would expect better performance. Never had the issue with Intel. But with a nice bit or memory, the performance is really nice.

skybrian 3y ago
A contrasting data point: I have an 8gb M2 and haven’t noticed any problem yet that made me wish I had more memory. I’m not using it for work, though.
kanwisher 3y ago
You are only person in thread that says this. I still have one laptop is a M1 air 16gb. Still fastest computer I have ever owned outside of my MBP, I really only mbp for AI training everything else runs great on air still
sgt 3y ago
I'm on 16GB which seems plenty - running many JetBrain's IDE's at the same time, browsers, VM's etc. I know people with the 8GB version and they are fine too. Could be that your machine is faulty somehow and that it's not the RAM but something else.
wickedsickeune 3y ago
I'm using Unity (uber wasteful) and Rider (Java) and an M1 air with 8GB is fine, no slowdown whatsoever* (compared to my desktop with 32GB on Windows). RAM is not the bottleneck in *NIX OSes, unless you do something that specifically requires a lot of RAM (eg machine learning) *compiling is slower, but the desktop has a much faster CPU
Toutouxc 3y ago
> 24GB ram is really the minimum that is usable on M-series when doing any type of basic work M1 Air with 16 GB RAM. I have RubyMine (JetBrains IDE), an application server running Rails, MariaDB, MongoDB, Redis, Slack, Safari and Apple Music running, and DxO PhotoLab 7 loaded on the non-work desktop space and clicking through some photos I took yesterday. Memory pressure green, laptop chilling at 30 °C.
asadm 3y ago
Not sure what workflow you are on but I have a few IDEs, simulators, electron apps, etc. on my 16gb m1 pro. I haven't ever had memory issues.
turquoisevar 3y ago
You might want to get that checked out I’ve got a 8GB Mac mini, 16GB iMac and a 64GB MBP, all on Apple Silicon. In 99% of the cases I can’t tell a difference in responsiveness or use and my main use is app development in Xcode and high resolution photo and video editing. Even when actively monitoring things I mainly see a difference in memory compression, not so much in swap. As for Intel, before Apple Silicon I had the most tricked out Intel MBP and I’d rather chop my left arm off and be stuck in a bunker for a year with just the 8GB Mac mini than have to use that the Intel MBP is had. Unless perhaps the bunker has no heating, in which case I might have to reconsider.

shpx 3y ago

You're saying people shouldn't be able to buy 8GB RAM Macs, which is crazy. I had to check how much memory my laptop has, and it's 8GB and I've never noticed. I guess you're just complaining about what you get for the lowest price.

guax 3y ago
The lowest price is still a very high price that justifies the low end being 16. This is not a baseless complaint. And no, it's almost 2024, people should not be able to buy 8gb RAM computers when they're soldered in and 1k+ in price.
daveoc64 3y ago
For the price and a supposedly "Pro" model, having 8GB of non-replaceable RAM is ludicrous.

olliej 3y ago

and yet at this point pretty much expected. So obnoxious and odious - the reality is for any C/C++/rust or similar compilation you need a minimum of 1gb per compilation core for compilation alone, before you consider the rest of the OS :-/