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Apple launched M2 MBPs only in January. I wonder if Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite (benchmarking now, but not in products until mid-2024) drove some of the timin

by lhl 3y ago

Apple launched M2 MBPs only in January. I wonder if Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite (benchmarking now, but not in products until mid-2024) drove some of the timing on this launch: https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/qualcomm-brings-the-receipts-snapdragon-x-elite-gets-benchmarked-proves-it-beats-apples-m2-processor https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/qualcomm-bri...

b0b10101 3y ago
other way around i suspect. qualcomm knew this event was coming and wanted to front-run's apple's announcement. especially as the macs ship much sooner...
re-thc 3y ago
M2 was late rather than M3 being early.
BirAdam 3y ago
From what I’ve heard from folks connected with Apple, M3 was designed some time ago and TSMC delays on 3NM are why M2 happened at all. So, Apple is releasing M3 later than they’d have liked, and I expect we will see the M4 refresh faster than we would have otherwise.
hajile 3y ago
Oryon seems like it's going to be very competitive with the very underwhelming M3 design.
threeseed 3y ago
ARM on Windows is going to be irrelevant for at least a decade likely forever. There is a long-standing culture with the Mac that (a) backwards compatibility is minimal, (b) developers need to always keep their code current and (c) users should expect constant turnover in the platform. None of that exists on Windows. And when we last saw Windows on ARM the outcomes were that this wasn't going to change. Which means it will never be a transition rather a fragmentation of Windows ecosystem into two equal parts. Making it far less compelling for everyone.
- QuarterReptile 3y ago
  The reports of emulation and native apps on Windows seem pretty compelling to me, and the battery life improvements are substantial. For people who live in browsers (most people), it's not that hard. The more compelling reason for fragmentation is that AMD and Intel will stay with x86 as long as they can, and high prices from Qualcomm will keep people from shifting over en mass.

by lhl 3y ago

b0b10101 3y ago

other way around i suspect. qualcomm knew this event was coming and wanted to front-run's apple's announcement. especially as the macs ship much sooner...

re-thc 3y ago

M2 was late rather than M3 being early.

BirAdam 3y ago

From what I’ve heard from folks connected with Apple, M3 was designed some time ago and TSMC delays on 3NM are why M2 happened at all. So, Apple is releasing M3 later than they’d have liked, and I expect we will see the M4 refresh faster than we would have otherwise.

hajile 3y ago

Oryon seems like it's going to be very competitive with the very underwhelming M3 design.

threeseed 3y ago

ARM on Windows is going to be irrelevant for at least a decade likely forever. There is a long-standing culture with the Mac that (a) backwards compatibility is minimal, (b) developers need to always keep their code current and (c) users should expect constant turnover in the platform. None of that exists on Windows. And when we last saw Windows on ARM the outcomes were that this wasn't going to change. Which means it will never be a transition rather a fragmentation of Windows ecosystem into two equal parts. Making it far less compelling for everyone.

QuarterReptile 3y ago
The reports of emulation and native apps on Windows seem pretty compelling to me, and the battery life improvements are substantial. For people who live in browsers (most people), it's not that hard. The more compelling reason for fragmentation is that AMD and Intel will stay with x86 as long as they can, and high prices from Qualcomm will keep people from shifting over en mass.