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Yeah. The original source is the Correio da Manhã at https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/troca-de-roma-por-granada-da-alerta-no-cais-de-sodre https://www.

by schoen 3y ago

Yeah. The original source is the Correio da Manhã at https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/troca-de-roma-por-granada-da-alerta-no-cais-de-sodre https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/troca-de-roma-por-g... which is mostly behind a paywall. I'm sure there are some idiom confusions possible between different languages related to ordering/wanting something versus having that thing. Like in English one could order something with "I'll have ...". If you were translating "I'll have" into Portuguese in other contexts (like "I'll have an appointment at noon"), it could just be "tenho", not even necessarily "vou ter"! (I don't mean to suggest that that's the exact problem here; for one thing, it was apparently Russian-to-Portuguese.)

aaron695 3y ago
Footage of the arrest - https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/homem-usa-tradutor-para-ameacar-lancar-granada-dentro-do-restaurante-portugalia-no-cais-do-sodre https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/homem-usa-tradutor-... Un-paywalled story - https://archive.is/41EtL https://archive.is/41EtL Azerbaijani man speaking Russian, with an Israeli passport. Who orders a pomegranate drink at a restaurant. The story is pretty sus.
- gus_massa 3y ago
  It's strange, but the page about ponergranate in Portuguese start with a reference about drink: > A romã é o fruto da romãzeira (Punica granatum), comum no mediterrâneo oriental e médio oriente onde a polpa é usada para a preparação de aperitivos, sobremesa ou algumas vezes em bebida alcoólica. autotranlation> Pomegranate is the fruit of the pomegranate tree (Punica granatum), common in the Eastern and Middle Eastern Mediterranean where the pulp is used to prepare appetizers, dessert or sometimes in alcoholic drinks. The English and Spanish versions of Wikipedia have only references to the drink in the middle of the article, so it may be more popular in Portugal (or Azerbaijan). Still suspicious. Here in Argentina we have drink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadine You can buy the concentrated syrup and ilute it at home with water or carbonated water. It's not super popular, but you can buy a bottle in half of the supermarkets. I buy 1 or 2 per year. Anyway, I don't remember a version that can be bought in a restaurant. OK, I just found one https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-1124864393-gaseosa-manaos-granadina-225l-pack-x6-unidades-dist-huma-_JM https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-1124864393-gaseosa-... but don't expect to find it in most restaurants here.
  - schoen 3y ago
    I think pomegranate juice is historically popular in Iran, so maybe also in Azerbaijan. There's a pomegranate juice brand that's relatively common in U.S. supermarkets, but not in restaurants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POM_Wonderful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POM_Wonderful I don't think I had ever seen pomegranate juice in a supermarket before this brand appeared (apparently in 2002). I think it's also used in some cocktails, so I wouldn't be surprised if bars had at least a little bit on hand.

by schoen 3y ago

aaron695 3y ago

Footage of the arrest - https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/homem-usa-tradutor-para-ameacar-lancar-granada-dentro-do-restaurante-portugalia-no-cais-do-sodre https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/homem-usa-tradutor-... Un-paywalled story - https://archive.is/41EtL https://archive.is/41EtL Azerbaijani man speaking Russian, with an Israeli passport. Who orders a pomegranate drink at a restaurant. The story is pretty sus.

gus_massa 3y ago
It's strange, but the page about ponergranate in Portuguese start with a reference about drink: > A romã é o fruto da romãzeira (Punica granatum), comum no mediterrâneo oriental e médio oriente onde a polpa é usada para a preparação de aperitivos, sobremesa ou algumas vezes em bebida alcoólica. autotranlation> Pomegranate is the fruit of the pomegranate tree (Punica granatum), common in the Eastern and Middle Eastern Mediterranean where the pulp is used to prepare appetizers, dessert or sometimes in alcoholic drinks. The English and Spanish versions of Wikipedia have only references to the drink in the middle of the article, so it may be more popular in Portugal (or Azerbaijan). Still suspicious. Here in Argentina we have drink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadine You can buy the concentrated syrup and ilute it at home with water or carbonated water. It's not super popular, but you can buy a bottle in half of the supermarkets. I buy 1 or 2 per year. Anyway, I don't remember a version that can be bought in a restaurant. OK, I just found one https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-1124864393-gaseosa-manaos-granadina-225l-pack-x6-unidades-dist-huma-_JM https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-1124864393-gaseosa-... but don't expect to find it in most restaurants here.
- schoen 3y ago
  I think pomegranate juice is historically popular in Iran, so maybe also in Azerbaijan. There's a pomegranate juice brand that's relatively common in U.S. supermarkets, but not in restaurants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POM_Wonderful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POM_Wonderful I don't think I had ever seen pomegranate juice in a supermarket before this brand appeared (apparently in 2002). I think it's also used in some cocktails, so I wouldn't be surprised if bars had at least a little bit on hand.