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Taking bets on the odds of this being disallowed for places where it would be actually useful (for example: airports; municipal buildings; skyscrapers).

by Shamiq 15y ago

stcredzero 15y ago
This could well have the same unintended effect that automated checkout had with stores. Stores want you to wander around being lost, so they have more time to keep you awash in marketing. In the end, though, it will be more of the same nonsense as "sticky" portals in the dot.com days. People know the utility of information, and dislike it when you keep information from them so you can market to them.
bonzoesc 15y ago
The competition already has this for airports: http://binged.it/HnKPqO http://binged.it/HnKPqO Compare: http://g.co/maps/8e9xp http://g.co/maps/8e9xp
- magicalist 15y ago
  which is weird, because in the android maps application, SFO is completely filled in with a floor plan (and actually more detailed than the bing version, which appears limited to coarsely positioned rectangles for sections of the floor plan). Is there some poor UI incantation you need to do to get this to appear on google maps?
  - yellowbkpk 15y ago
    You might be able to see it if you turn on WebGL Maps on maps.google.com.
    - hsshah 15y ago
      Nope. Still Bing has a more detailed layout.
- aubergene 15y ago
  Open Street Map doesn't have it, but here's the link for comparison anyway http://osm.org/go/TZHqgKAqa-- http://osm.org/go/TZHqgKAqa--
jrockway 15y ago
How would one disallow this? The DMCA doesn't cover "I don't want that information available".
- anigbrowl 15y ago
  Under the CII (critical infrastructure information) Act, to prevent terrorists exploiting it for planning attacks: http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/gc_1193091627563.shtm http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/gc_1193091627563.shtm
  - aerosuch 15y ago
    Data access/usability vs. security/privacy is a worthy concern for building data. I think we will see a designation made based on level of detail. Blueprints (with details about structural features) should not be publicly available. However, simplified floor plans for public spaces are already publicly displayed, as required for fire evacuation purposes. Where that "level of detail" line is drawn is an important discussion as the availability of indoor maps from Google, Bing, OSM, Micello, etc. continues to expand.

Taking bets on the odds of this being disallowed for places where it would be actually useful (for example: airports; municipal buildings; skyscrapers).

by Shamiq 15y ago

Taking bets on the odds of this being disallowed for places where it would be actually useful (for example: airports; municipal buildings; skyscrapers).

stcredzero 15y ago

This could well have the same unintended effect that automated checkout had with stores. Stores want you to wander around being lost, so they have more time to keep you awash in marketing. In the end, though, it will be more of the same nonsense as "sticky" portals in the dot.com days. People know the utility of information, and dislike it when you keep information from them so you can market to them.

bonzoesc 15y ago

The competition already has this for airports: http://binged.it/HnKPqO http://binged.it/HnKPqO Compare: http://g.co/maps/8e9xp http://g.co/maps/8e9xp

magicalist 15y ago
which is weird, because in the android maps application, SFO is completely filled in with a floor plan (and actually more detailed than the bing version, which appears limited to coarsely positioned rectangles for sections of the floor plan). Is there some poor UI incantation you need to do to get this to appear on google maps?
- yellowbkpk 15y ago
  You might be able to see it if you turn on WebGL Maps on maps.google.com.
  - hsshah 15y ago
    Nope. Still Bing has a more detailed layout.
aubergene 15y ago
Open Street Map doesn't have it, but here's the link for comparison anyway http://osm.org/go/TZHqgKAqa-- http://osm.org/go/TZHqgKAqa--

jrockway 15y ago

How would one disallow this? The DMCA doesn't cover "I don't want that information available".

anigbrowl 15y ago
Under the CII (critical infrastructure information) Act, to prevent terrorists exploiting it for planning attacks: http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/gc_1193091627563.shtm http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/gc_1193091627563.shtm
- aerosuch 15y ago
  Data access/usability vs. security/privacy is a worthy concern for building data. I think we will see a designation made based on level of detail. Blueprints (with details about structural features) should not be publicly available. However, simplified floor plans for public spaces are already publicly displayed, as required for fire evacuation purposes. Where that "level of detail" line is drawn is an important discussion as the availability of indoor maps from Google, Bing, OSM, Micello, etc. continues to expand.