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The newspapers where they write op-eds, or the radio and TV channels where they give speeches are private too. I don't see a difference

ajsnigrutin 3y ago
NY Times can't block you from buying their newspaper, and public broadcast television can't block you from getting their reception. One wrongthink on twitter can get you banned from there, and if your local government uses twitter to 'do whatever', you're effectively banned from that.
- hn_acker 3y ago
  > NY Times can't block you from buying their newspaper This is not true, beyond discrimination against protected classes. The New York Times is a non-governmental business. The First Amendment freedom of association is freedom to do business with anyone, or refuse business to anyone. A newspaper company can ban whoever and refuse to sell to whoever, so long as no government or government official coerces the company to do so. > One wrongthink on twitter can get you banned from there As a non-governmental company, Twitter has a First Amendment freedom of association. Twitter can legally ban you (not saying should ban you) from viewing a government's posts so long as no government or government official coerces Twitter to do so. The government official should mirror the contents of their social media posts on a freely accessible government website. I would favor a new law requiring mirroring and archival in this vein.
  - ajsnigrutin 3y ago
    You're not buying NY times from NY times directy, but from one of the thousands/millions of newspaper sales points, and getting fully banned (no where to buy it within reason) is for most people unimaginable. On the other hand, everyone knows someone who got banned from one platfor or another, and if not in person, there have been many articles of people getting banned from random platforms for random stupid reasons, even just saying a foreign word ( https://news.yahoo.com/japanese-apex-legends-players-being-200629036.html?guccounter=1 https://news.yahoo.com/japanese-apex-legends-players-being-2... ) I live in a non-english speaking country, and a word exchange of "Is Marko there?" - "He's not" would here be: "Je marko tam?" - "Ni ga" ... guess how the last sentance is pronounced, and how that could get misinterpreted if used in a video uploaded to eg. twitter/facebook/whatever.

ajsnigrutin 3y ago

NY Times can't block you from buying their newspaper, and public broadcast television can't block you from getting their reception. One wrongthink on twitter can get you banned from there, and if your local government uses twitter to 'do whatever', you're effectively banned from that.

hn_acker 3y ago
> NY Times can't block you from buying their newspaper This is not true, beyond discrimination against protected classes. The New York Times is a non-governmental business. The First Amendment freedom of association is freedom to do business with anyone, or refuse business to anyone. A newspaper company can ban whoever and refuse to sell to whoever, so long as no government or government official coerces the company to do so. > One wrongthink on twitter can get you banned from there As a non-governmental company, Twitter has a First Amendment freedom of association. Twitter can legally ban you (not saying should ban you) from viewing a government's posts so long as no government or government official coerces Twitter to do so. The government official should mirror the contents of their social media posts on a freely accessible government website. I would favor a new law requiring mirroring and archival in this vein.
- ajsnigrutin 3y ago
  You're not buying NY times from NY times directy, but from one of the thousands/millions of newspaper sales points, and getting fully banned (no where to buy it within reason) is for most people unimaginable. On the other hand, everyone knows someone who got banned from one platfor or another, and if not in person, there have been many articles of people getting banned from random platforms for random stupid reasons, even just saying a foreign word ( https://news.yahoo.com/japanese-apex-legends-players-being-200629036.html?guccounter=1 https://news.yahoo.com/japanese-apex-legends-players-being-2... ) I live in a non-english speaking country, and a word exchange of "Is Marko there?" - "He's not" would here be: "Je marko tam?" - "Ni ga" ... guess how the last sentance is pronounced, and how that could get misinterpreted if used in a video uploaded to eg. twitter/facebook/whatever.