I'm not aware of actual union-founded companies so the notion is fascinating to me. As far as unions not taking on business risk, I'd have to imagine that most

I'm not aware of actual union-founded companies so the notion is fascinating to me. As far as unions not taking on business risk, I'd have to imagine that most unions aren't going to ask for the moon to the extent of bankrupting the business. And there are some examples where unions have the foresight to demand the company make smart market moves: Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant (2017) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13986889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13986889 General Electric workers launch protest, demand to make ventilators (2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22731087 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22731087 In the tech space, one could imagine a coders' union demanding management to take technical limitations or issues more seriously. How many times have you worked somewhere where product, or simply upper management, has overruled software concerns?