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>That's like very measured, mealy-mouthed millennial speak that's mildly approving Ok, well, we've gone from; "you're confused, that's not the actual messagin
by robswc 3y ago
>That's like very measured, mealy-mouthed millennial speak that's mildly approving
Ok, well, we've gone from;
"you're confused, that's not the actual messaging"
to
"they're only mildly approving of constructing a device to behead people they disagree with"
>you still have a voice to counteract it
I should not have to spend mental energy or time telling an (in your words) activist, edgy-millennial that encouraging people to build guillotines is not a good PR look and doesn't represent me.
>just as you would if your company was engaged in a PR marketing campaign whose tenor you disagree with
If you don't like your company you can leave. If there were only one or two unions for software devs, (like OP implies) then it would be inescapable.
I don't disagree with the idea of unions in principal. I just feel they would be detrimental to software. The only reason start ups get off the ground is because people put their blood, sweat and tears into it. What is there to motivate co-op founders to put their blood, sweat and tears into a new co-op?
- Apocryphon 3y ago> Ok, well, we've gone from; Yes? The parameters of the discussion have shifted, so I am responding accordingly. This isn't a debate, let alone a sports game; there are no goalposts to shift, simply points to be addressed, not scored. > I should not have to spend mental energy or time telling an (in your words) activist, edgy-millennial that encouraging people to build guillotines is not a good PR look and doesn't represent me. I can understand it's an additional annoyance, and may be a dealbreaker in your book. I respect that. It is my position that it is a regrettable trifle and not all that different from when one's company PR, or even execs, make regrettable public statements. An overcomeable difficulty. > If there were only one or two unions for software devs, (like OP implies) then it would be inescapable. Sure, but it's such a different state of affairs from reality to seem positively absurd as a phantasm. > What is there to motivate co-op founders to put their blood, sweat and tears into a new co-op? I don't know, why don't you ask the founders of the Mondragon Corporation, or even the Arizmendi Bakery that bears the founder's name? Specific to software, what motivates those who start FOSS projects, or open hackerspaces or makerspaces, or create content for freeCodeCamp? Seems like there is precedence for autonomous, self-governing enterprises in tech, and I doubt that those behind them do not put in blood, sweat, and tears.