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It's not clear to me how this is any different than before? Most of my spam that I actually see already has all those things (valid DKIM, one-click unsubscribe
by jedberg 3y ago
It's not clear to me how this is any different than before? Most of my spam that I actually see already has all those things (valid DKIM, one-click unsubscribe link, and a rate limit per sender).
If you really want to fix email spam, create a micro-payments system. One cent for every email you send, the user has two options after they open the email: mark it as spam and keep the penny, mark it as legit and give the penny back. If they don't act on it within a week you get your penny back.
Legit senders won't be harmed because they will get their pennies back, spammers won't be able to afford sending messages anymore. The real interesting part would be stuff like LinkedIn notifications -- if people find them useful they'd give the penny back, but companies would have to decide how many people might actually find it useful for their cost analysis.
- theglenn88_ 3y agoIf I had a penny for every legitimate email I marked as spam, I’d be a billionaire. Jokes aside, why wouldn’t you just farm pennies by marking all emails as spam? You could say, “well you could detect people that abuse the system” - and now the mouse is chasing the cat.
- jedberg 3y agoBecause people would stop sending you email.
- AnthonyMouse 3y agoThe flaw is in giving the penny to the user instead of the email provider. If an email provider is claiming everything you send them is spam, you stop sending to them, which for a real email provider is a problem if you're sending non-spam email their customers actually want.
- butlike 3y agoYou bring up a vaid case. People farming pennies could be an issue, but on the other hand, farming pennies is a more noble cause, and one that ostensibly seems far easier to catch. I'd rather do a lookup to find the outliers who are harvesting pennies than to try and cat-and-mouse spammers who are masquerading as legitimate senders.
- ahoka 3y agoYou have invented bitcash, the ancestor of bitcoin.
- jedberg 3y agoWell not exactly. The currency isn't the hard part, it's the payment transfer infrastructure that would be hard. If the big players all go on board and agreed to one thing we'd be off to the races.