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Doesn't matter to me, if an email doesn't have a one click unsubscribe I just mark it as spam. Messes with their email reputation so they hopefully get kicked o

Doesn't matter to me, if an email doesn't have a one click unsubscribe I just mark it as spam. Messes with their email reputation so they hopefully get kicked off of reputable email services.

notwhereyouare 3y ago
biglots is horrible about this. I have unsubscribed MULTIPLE times and I keep getting emails. Now marked as spam
kevincox 3y ago
I do exactly the same. I give them one chance to let me unsubscribe. If it is more than 2 or 3 clicks I give up and mark as spam. If they keep sending I mark as spam.
LeifCarrotson 3y ago
I honestly don't care about their reputation, I just mark anything I don't want as spam. It's easier than finding the tiny 8-point link at the bottom and rolling the dice on whether their unsubscribe is one click or not. I don't feel obligated to protect their shitty business model.
- eastbound 3y ago
  I once went to an Atlassian conf and they resold all our emails to dodgy people. Or perhaps leaked them over the black markets. Not only I keep receiving almost the same email suggesting to buy 5,000 email addresses of Atlassian customers with always the same fields, but it’s always from different domains. I didn’t think of submitting an Atlassian ticket for each spam I receive. That would teach them. NEVER give your true email to Atlassian.
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  - tgsovlerkhgsel 3y ago
    Same with Blackhat. You can provide a different e-mail on your profile... and then they'll still happily pass both that and your original sign-up address to any vendor you interacted with, and it will be resold so you end up with spam from vendors that weren't even there.
  - LeifCarrotson 3y ago
    I think that happens with most conferences these days. Happened to the disposable email address I sent to the International Manufacturing Technology Show, the A3 Automate show, and the Advanced Manufacturing Expo. I understand giving my business card or email address to a new vendor I meet at the show. That's the point of the thing. I do not understand why these shows sabotage themselves by selling their reputation to spammy marketers.
xnx 3y ago
"!" key shortcut to mark as spam in Gmail web interface. I use it all the time. If I didn't expect and don't want the email you sent, then it is spam, regardless of what fine print I clicked through unknowingly at some point. Would love for an "Unsubscribe Sunday" unofficial holiday to catch on to the same degree as "Cyber Monday".
- eastbound 3y ago
  Why would you ever unsubscribe? Unless I remember subscribing, then this is spam. I don’t ever remember subscribing to anything. Almost all email is undesired, apart from password reset emails.
legitster 3y ago
Unfortunately for us, the Privacy team at our org has determined that a one-click unsubscribe link in the body of the email is unacceptable (passing an identifier into the URL of the link). So we accept either the client unsubscribe link, or users who click the unsubscribe link in the email have to provide their email address on the unsubscribe page.
- janosdebugs 3y ago
  What was the legal reasoning behind this?
  - legitster 3y ago
    If someone gets forwarded the email and they take action based on another person, or erroneously get unsubscribed by an email scanning tool, those are no-no events according to our lawyers. Keep in mind our webforms you can put whatever email you want in them. But something to do with the fact that we are knowingly storing the information and it crosses to another system.
    - janosdebugs 3y ago
      That shouldn't stop you from including such a link in the header and keep the non-oneclick link in the footer. Nowadays, emails are forwarded embedded, not as EML attachments, so the header link wouldn't be included. You have to jump through hoops to forward as EML.
      - legitster 3y ago
        Yes, that's what we do. We have the one-click through the client at the top, and the link at the bottom takes you to a more robust "preference center" that combines preferences from multiple systems (marketing, sales, product, etc). That doesn't stop people from sending in a spate of complaint emails every single day. But this is kind of the local minimum we have found and no one really wants to mess with it at this point.
- 3y ago

Doesn't matter to me, if an email doesn't have a one click unsubscribe I just mark it as spam. Messes with their email reputation so they hopefully get kicked off of reputable email services.

notwhereyouare 3y ago

biglots is horrible about this. I have unsubscribed MULTIPLE times and I keep getting emails. Now marked as spam

kevincox 3y ago

I do exactly the same. I give them one chance to let me unsubscribe. If it is more than 2 or 3 clicks I give up and mark as spam. If they keep sending I mark as spam.

LeifCarrotson 3y ago

I honestly don't care about their reputation, I just mark anything I don't want as spam. It's easier than finding the tiny 8-point link at the bottom and rolling the dice on whether their unsubscribe is one click or not. I don't feel obligated to protect their shitty business model.

eastbound 3y ago
I once went to an Atlassian conf and they resold all our emails to dodgy people. Or perhaps leaked them over the black markets. Not only I keep receiving almost the same email suggesting to buy 5,000 email addresses of Atlassian customers with always the same fields, but it’s always from different domains. I didn’t think of submitting an Atlassian ticket for each spam I receive. That would teach them. NEVER give your true email to Atlassian.
- deleted 3y ago
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- tgsovlerkhgsel 3y ago
  Same with Blackhat. You can provide a different e-mail on your profile... and then they'll still happily pass both that and your original sign-up address to any vendor you interacted with, and it will be resold so you end up with spam from vendors that weren't even there.
- LeifCarrotson 3y ago
  I think that happens with most conferences these days. Happened to the disposable email address I sent to the International Manufacturing Technology Show, the A3 Automate show, and the Advanced Manufacturing Expo. I understand giving my business card or email address to a new vendor I meet at the show. That's the point of the thing. I do not understand why these shows sabotage themselves by selling their reputation to spammy marketers.

xnx 3y ago

"!" key shortcut to mark as spam in Gmail web interface. I use it all the time. If I didn't expect and don't want the email you sent, then it is spam, regardless of what fine print I clicked through unknowingly at some point. Would love for an "Unsubscribe Sunday" unofficial holiday to catch on to the same degree as "Cyber Monday".

eastbound 3y ago
Why would you ever unsubscribe? Unless I remember subscribing, then this is spam. I don’t ever remember subscribing to anything. Almost all email is undesired, apart from password reset emails.

legitster 3y ago

Unfortunately for us, the Privacy team at our org has determined that a one-click unsubscribe link in the body of the email is unacceptable (passing an identifier into the URL of the link). So we accept either the client unsubscribe link, or users who click the unsubscribe link in the email have to provide their email address on the unsubscribe page.

janosdebugs 3y ago
What was the legal reasoning behind this?
- legitster 3y ago
  If someone gets forwarded the email and they take action based on another person, or erroneously get unsubscribed by an email scanning tool, those are no-no events according to our lawyers. Keep in mind our webforms you can put whatever email you want in them. But something to do with the fact that we are knowingly storing the information and it crosses to another system.
  - janosdebugs 3y ago
    That shouldn't stop you from including such a link in the header and keep the non-oneclick link in the footer. Nowadays, emails are forwarded embedded, not as EML attachments, so the header link wouldn't be included. You have to jump through hoops to forward as EML.
    - legitster 3y ago
      Yes, that's what we do. We have the one-click through the client at the top, and the link at the bottom takes you to a more robust "preference center" that combines preferences from multiple systems (marketing, sales, product, etc). That doesn't stop people from sending in a spate of complaint emails every single day. But this is kind of the local minimum we have found and no one really wants to mess with it at this point.
3y ago