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Most of the spam I get in gmail apparently comes from other gmail accounts. Presumably google already filtered out senders pretending to be gmail, so I am not s

Most of the spam I get in gmail apparently comes from other gmail accounts. Presumably google already filtered out senders pretending to be gmail, so I am not sure what a big improvement this will be for the average user.

chimeracoder 3y ago
> Most of the spam I get in gmail apparently comes from other gmail accounts. Are they actually from Gmail accounts, or are they simply spoofing the sender? My bet is on the latter, because Google has heavy restrictions on Gmail that make it impractical to use for sending bulk spam. > I am not sure what a big improvement this will be for the average user. It's not going to be particularly noticeable for the average user, except for the second part (single-click unsubscribe, as opposed to a multi-step flow, is slightly stricter than what's required by CAN-SPAM). It will probably make Google's work easier, though, by having a publicly-known policy of rejecting emails without DKIM, as opposed the the status quo of having that be merely an open secret.
- andersa 3y ago
  Spoofing the sender to show up as gmail.com on gmail.com is not possible.
- ericpauley 3y ago
  Gmail also has DMARC quarantine enabled. What’s more likely, that someone broke DMARC or that they stole someone’s password? My bet is on the latter.
- maybeben 3y ago
  The vast majority of spam we get that isn't trivially rejected (DMARC, malformed HELO, etc) is from real, actual gmail. But they sure do care about _incoming_ spam.
asddubs 3y ago
I've gotten a few emails from my own gmail account, spoofed, which inexplicably did not land in the spam folder. This happened to me on multiple different gmail accounts, too.
- benatkin 3y ago
  Perhaps they wanted you to see that someone was trying to spoof you. They should have a better way of doing that though :/
- partiallypro 3y ago
  This happens to me all the time, I honestly am not sure this measure is going to solve much.
- NullPrefix 3y ago
  Click "Mark as spam" and the all mighty machine learning might decide that the sender address (your address) is a spam sender
tornato7 3y ago
I receive a lot of scam emails from Google Docs - ie random users 'sharing' Google Docs with me that are either ads or viruses or both.
- foobazgt 3y ago
  I got one of these once. Google does run spam classifiers for docs and you can report them as spam: https://support.google.com/drive/answer/13305033 https://support.google.com/drive/answer/13305033
- Loocid 3y ago
  Interesting I received a flood of these maybe 6 months ago. It never happened before and it never happened again.
queuebert 3y ago
The majority of my spam is to firstname.lastname@gmail.com, because I have a common name. I assume spammers put together a list of common names and infer addresses from them. This would probably help me a lot.
preinheimer 3y ago
Yeah, most outgoing sales people these days reach out using gmail. No unsubscribe links in any of them.

chimeracoder 3y ago

> Most of the spam I get in gmail apparently comes from other gmail accounts. Are they actually from Gmail accounts, or are they simply spoofing the sender? My bet is on the latter, because Google has heavy restrictions on Gmail that make it impractical to use for sending bulk spam. > I am not sure what a big improvement this will be for the average user. It's not going to be particularly noticeable for the average user, except for the second part (single-click unsubscribe, as opposed to a multi-step flow, is slightly stricter than what's required by CAN-SPAM). It will probably make Google's work easier, though, by having a publicly-known policy of rejecting emails without DKIM, as opposed the the status quo of having that be merely an open secret.

andersa 3y ago
Spoofing the sender to show up as gmail.com on gmail.com is not possible.
ericpauley 3y ago
Gmail also has DMARC quarantine enabled. What’s more likely, that someone broke DMARC or that they stole someone’s password? My bet is on the latter.
maybeben 3y ago
The vast majority of spam we get that isn't trivially rejected (DMARC, malformed HELO, etc) is from real, actual gmail. But they sure do care about _incoming_ spam.

asddubs 3y ago

I've gotten a few emails from my own gmail account, spoofed, which inexplicably did not land in the spam folder. This happened to me on multiple different gmail accounts, too.

benatkin 3y ago
Perhaps they wanted you to see that someone was trying to spoof you. They should have a better way of doing that though :/
partiallypro 3y ago
This happens to me all the time, I honestly am not sure this measure is going to solve much.
NullPrefix 3y ago
Click "Mark as spam" and the all mighty machine learning might decide that the sender address (your address) is a spam sender

tornato7 3y ago

I receive a lot of scam emails from Google Docs - ie random users 'sharing' Google Docs with me that are either ads or viruses or both.

foobazgt 3y ago
I got one of these once. Google does run spam classifiers for docs and you can report them as spam: https://support.google.com/drive/answer/13305033 https://support.google.com/drive/answer/13305033
Loocid 3y ago
Interesting I received a flood of these maybe 6 months ago. It never happened before and it never happened again.

queuebert 3y ago

The majority of my spam is to firstname.lastname@gmail.com, because I have a common name. I assume spammers put together a list of common names and infer addresses from them. This would probably help me a lot.

preinheimer 3y ago

Yeah, most outgoing sales people these days reach out using gmail. No unsubscribe links in any of them.