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I realize this is probably just a joke that isn't intended to actually add much to the discussion, but thankfully actual mental health professionals without an

I realize this is probably just a joke that isn't intended to actually add much to the discussion, but thankfully actual mental health professionals without an agenda wouldn't dare interpret something so trivial and shallow as that as serious evidence of pathology.

hutzlibu 3y ago
I don't think it is that shallow, but sure, no professional would judge on one incident alone. But otherwise there are plenty of other open examples of ... interesting behavior.
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  You can find many people with some credentials who volunteer a diagnosis https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=psychological+diagnosis+of+elon+musk https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=psychol... though the "Asperger's" story is the most repeated. Personally I think he's a schizotype because I think the vast majority of people who think they have Asperger's (I don't) are really schizotypes. I had a hard midlife crisis with a breakout of situational narcissism too but I got my ass kicked quickly in a gentle way.
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    I honestly feel bad in a detached way that people are "allowed" to ever get to this point. Its like those people born without pain/heat sensors (nociceptors?) who are technically painless/can tolerate any temperature but all that means is they never have a natural feedback loops that keeps them alive and thst they don't need to actively manage 24/7/365/80 if they even make it that far. We need to be told and hear things that are painful and force us to reevaluate. In the ab$ence of that, its financially/personally/socially ruinous. Suicidal even, some might infer
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    Can u briefly elaborate on the distinction as you view it?
    - PaulHoule 3y ago
      I got evaled for autism. My social perception is basically intact; there are certain things that autists are oblivious to that I perceive. However there is some kind of glitchiness that makes that perception seem to be a curse rather than a blessing. Maybe the glitchiness is not the social perception itself but the other cognitive processes that have to form a chain for it to work. Or maybe I am a bit inclined to be paranoid, or maybe it works too well and I see things people don't want me to see or maybe I find other people's emotions to be too overpowering. (Either way I didn't want to make eye contact as a kid)
      - Obscurity4340 3y ago
        Any like youtube level mainstream resources I can peruse to get a better idea of these things? I recently saw a psych and nothing like that came up?
      - Obscurity4340 3y ago
        What was the outcome, diagnostically speaking
      - Obscurity4340 3y ago
        What was the result diagnostically soeaking of all this?
tczMUFlmoNk 3y ago
Yes, and moreover it is in the APA's Principles of Medical Ethics to decline to comment on public figures they haven't seen personally: > A physician shall recognize a responsibility to participate in activities contributing to the improvement of the community and the betterment of public health. > […] > On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  > Yess, and... no, and...\n no
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Honestly, I hate the notion of downvotes but this response is mighty tempting. You haven't answered the question in the way you think you have. Nobody is being solicited to legit provide a diagnosis of Mr. Musk. Imma call him that from now on like Mr. Trump. Also, I agree with the "comments in general" comment I'm saying, behavior analysis people: behavioral analyze this public record of nuts happenings and have and where have you seen this before?
Obscurity4340 3y ago
This could theoretically easily be accommodated by literally just describing the exact facts and events etc without naming the individual and simply requesting a behavioral analysis which is populated by all the publicly known info and requesting the therapeutic equivalent of a directed verdict which is open to the inclusion of more facts if anyone disagrees with the product of the inquiry
Obscurity4340 3y ago
Also, in what world is taking an established brand and renaming it a single alphabet letter based on a defunct previous investment trivial/shallow? Like, I get your point and obviously that act in and of itself is a shallow ridiculous thing but i feel like you're heavily underststing how truly asinine the whole saga is to the extent that calling it shallow is beyond incomprehensible. Thats pretty extreme. He might as well have named it 42 since thats "the answer", no?

hutzlibu 3y ago

I don't think it is that shallow, but sure, no professional would judge on one incident alone. But otherwise there are plenty of other open examples of ... interesting behavior.

PaulHoule 3y ago
You can find many people with some credentials who volunteer a diagnosis https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=psychological+diagnosis+of+elon+musk https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=psychol... though the "Asperger's" story is the most repeated. Personally I think he's a schizotype because I think the vast majority of people who think they have Asperger's (I don't) are really schizotypes. I had a hard midlife crisis with a breakout of situational narcissism too but I got my ass kicked quickly in a gentle way.
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  I honestly feel bad in a detached way that people are "allowed" to ever get to this point. Its like those people born without pain/heat sensors (nociceptors?) who are technically painless/can tolerate any temperature but all that means is they never have a natural feedback loops that keeps them alive and thst they don't need to actively manage 24/7/365/80 if they even make it that far. We need to be told and hear things that are painful and force us to reevaluate. In the ab$ence of that, its financially/personally/socially ruinous. Suicidal even, some might infer
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Can u briefly elaborate on the distinction as you view it?
  - PaulHoule 3y ago
    I got evaled for autism. My social perception is basically intact; there are certain things that autists are oblivious to that I perceive. However there is some kind of glitchiness that makes that perception seem to be a curse rather than a blessing. Maybe the glitchiness is not the social perception itself but the other cognitive processes that have to form a chain for it to work. Or maybe I am a bit inclined to be paranoid, or maybe it works too well and I see things people don't want me to see or maybe I find other people's emotions to be too overpowering. (Either way I didn't want to make eye contact as a kid)
    - Obscurity4340 3y ago
      Any like youtube level mainstream resources I can peruse to get a better idea of these things? I recently saw a psych and nothing like that came up?
    - Obscurity4340 3y ago
      What was the outcome, diagnostically speaking
    - Obscurity4340 3y ago
      What was the result diagnostically soeaking of all this?

tczMUFlmoNk 3y ago

Yes, and moreover it is in the APA's Principles of Medical Ethics to decline to comment on public figures they haven't seen personally: > A physician shall recognize a responsibility to participate in activities contributing to the improvement of the community and the betterment of public health. > […] > On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule

Obscurity4340 3y ago
> Yess, and... no, and...\n no
Obscurity4340 3y ago
Honestly, I hate the notion of downvotes but this response is mighty tempting. You haven't answered the question in the way you think you have. Nobody is being solicited to legit provide a diagnosis of Mr. Musk. Imma call him that from now on like Mr. Trump. Also, I agree with the "comments in general" comment I'm saying, behavior analysis people: behavioral analyze this public record of nuts happenings and have and where have you seen this before?

Obscurity4340 3y ago

This could theoretically easily be accommodated by literally just describing the exact facts and events etc without naming the individual and simply requesting a behavioral analysis which is populated by all the publicly known info and requesting the therapeutic equivalent of a directed verdict which is open to the inclusion of more facts if anyone disagrees with the product of the inquiry

Obscurity4340 3y ago

Also, in what world is taking an established brand and renaming it a single alphabet letter based on a defunct previous investment trivial/shallow? Like, I get your point and obviously that act in and of itself is a shallow ridiculous thing but i feel like you're heavily underststing how truly asinine the whole saga is to the extent that calling it shallow is beyond incomprehensible. Thats pretty extreme. He might as well have named it 42 since thats "the answer", no?