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I wonder if any psychologist or mental health professional has done an analysis of Musk's `X` obsession... I wonder if its in reference to the variable x since

I wonder if any psychologist or mental health professional has done an analysis of Musk's `X` obsession... I wonder if its in reference to the variable x since it can be anything he assigns it? Its definitely a common narcissistic trait. Let it be so, lol

gustavus 3y ago
Clearly it's because he is offering to bankroll a supra-national group of elite soldiers to fight the alien menace that threatens our species and way of life, and he is hoping that "[Musk] has been chosen to lead this initiative. To oversee our first—and last—line of defense. His efforts will have considerable influence on this planet's future. We urge you to keep that in mind as he proceed. Good luck, Musk" - X-COM:Enemy Of Tesla
Enginerrrd 3y ago
I realize this is probably just a joke that isn't intended to actually add much to the discussion, but thankfully actual mental health professionals without an agenda wouldn't dare interpret something so trivial and shallow as that as serious evidence of pathology.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  I don't think it is that shallow, but sure, no professional would judge on one incident alone. But otherwise there are plenty of other open examples of ... interesting behavior.
  - PaulHoule 3y ago
    You can find many people with some credentials who volunteer a diagnosis https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=psychological+diagnosis+of+elon+musk https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=psychol... though the "Asperger's" story is the most repeated. Personally I think he's a schizotype because I think the vast majority of people who think they have Asperger's (I don't) are really schizotypes. I had a hard midlife crisis with a breakout of situational narcissism too but I got my ass kicked quickly in a gentle way.
    - Obscurity4340 3y ago
      I honestly feel bad in a detached way that people are "allowed" to ever get to this point. Its like those people born without pain/heat sensors (nociceptors?) who are technically painless/can tolerate any temperature but all that means is they never have a natural feedback loops that keeps them alive and thst they don't need to actively manage 24/7/365/80 if they even make it that far. We need to be told and hear things that are painful and force us to reevaluate. In the ab$ence of that, its financially/personally/socially ruinous. Suicidal even, some might infer
    - Obscurity4340 3y ago
      Can u briefly elaborate on the distinction as you view it?
      - PaulHoule 3y ago
        I got evaled for autism. My social perception is basically intact; there are certain things that autists are oblivious to that I perceive. However there is some kind of glitchiness that makes that perception seem to be a curse rather than a blessing. Maybe the glitchiness is not the social perception itself but the other cognitive processes that have to form a chain for it to work. Or maybe I am a bit inclined to be paranoid, or maybe it works too well and I see things people don't want me to see or maybe I find other people's emotions to be too overpowering. (Either way I didn't want to make eye contact as a kid)
        Obscurity4340 3y ago
        Any like youtube level mainstream resources I can peruse to get a better idea of these things? I recently saw a psych and nothing like that came up?
        Obscurity4340 3y ago
        What was the outcome, diagnostically speaking
        Obscurity4340 3y ago
- tczMUFlmoNk 3y ago
  Yes, and moreover it is in the APA's Principles of Medical Ethics to decline to comment on public figures they haven't seen personally: > A physician shall recognize a responsibility to participate in activities contributing to the improvement of the community and the betterment of public health. > […] > On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    > Yess, and... no, and...\n no
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    Honestly, I hate the notion of downvotes but this response is mighty tempting. You haven't answered the question in the way you think you have. Nobody is being solicited to legit provide a diagnosis of Mr. Musk. Imma call him that from now on like Mr. Trump. Also, I agree with the "comments in general" comment I'm saying, behavior analysis people: behavioral analyze this public record of nuts happenings and have and where have you seen this before?
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  This could theoretically easily be accommodated by literally just describing the exact facts and events etc without naming the individual and simply requesting a behavioral analysis which is populated by all the publicly known info and requesting the therapeutic equivalent of a directed verdict which is open to the inclusion of more facts if anyone disagrees with the product of the inquiry
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Also, in what world is taking an established brand and renaming it a single alphabet letter based on a defunct previous investment trivial/shallow? Like, I get your point and obviously that act in and of itself is a shallow ridiculous thing but i feel like you're heavily underststing how truly asinine the whole saga is to the extent that calling it shallow is beyond incomprehensible. Thats pretty extreme. He might as well have named it 42 since thats "the answer", no?
robotburrito 3y ago
It just might be his age. In the 90s "X" was super cool in the culture that people his age may have been into. In particular comic books. X-Men, X-Factor, X-Force, Gen-X, etc... No clue though.
- soneca 3y ago
  There was a Brazilian billionaire also obsessed with “X”, Eike Batista. “X” had a mystical significance for him, it meant a multiplier or whatever. He would name all of his companies with “X” too, before Musk I believe. But he was a much more “on-paper” billionaire because his wealth was tied to some oil companies that had that valuation only on paper. It was tied to finding a lot of oil on some places. When that didn’t happen, all that “wealth” went to dust and he was back to being “only” a multimillionaire.
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    Interesting twist :)
- Tao3300 3y ago
  X the Owl.
  - webnrrd2k 3y ago
    I was thinking Malcolm the Tenth
- rchaud 3y ago
  PayPal was called X.com when Musk was there. That's it.
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    Who named it that? Musk? Or is it like Tesla where he co-founded it after it had been founded?
robswc 3y ago
FWIW, "Twitter" is 1000x better than "X" but... >I wonder if any psychologist or mental health professional has done an analysis of Musk's `X` obsession Only if said psychologist wants to look ridiculous. >I wonder if its in reference to the variable x since it can be anything he assigns it I mean, clearly? I don't even think that's a secret. >Its definitely a common narcissistic trait IMO its fine to dislike Musk but suggesting someone is a narcissist because they like the letter X is an insane stretch. Especially from an armchair.
- Zetobal 3y ago
  I mean looking into his mental state is certainly not ridiculous. No matter for or against Musk's his politics, business ventures or 4chan edgelord shit. Being in his position must leave marks on your mental health.
  - PaulHoule 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquired_situational_narcissism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquired_situational_narcissis...
    - Obscurity4340 3y ago
      Best answer, Jesus. Quite the community debate we got running here.
  - robswc 3y ago
    >I mean looking into his mental state is certainly not ridiculous I think trying to diagnose people with anything over the internet is a dangerous precedence. I think people are free to speculate, I just don't think it is at all productive. I mean, I honestly think he has some form of bi-polar but trying to diagnose narcissism because he likes the letter X and what it implies is crazy. It would be like me saying OP has agoraphobia because he has "obscurity" in his name. I could be right on both accounts but making diagnoses over the internet never ends well.
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Obscurity4340 3y ago
So me and my compatriot Sherlock have concurred that the problem here is nobody is responding to the actual prompt here. I said more or less that I wondered if there have been any analyses done on the specific concept of being obsessed with a letter of the alphabet as it relates to Musk's context and also I am being a bit reductive in my summary here but I feel like I'm not doing it injustice because there's a bit of a rhetorical fire that needs to lit to help get a proper response to this inquiry that so far has only yielded maybe like 2 passable responses Behavior can be analysed and parsed. Nobody is asking for anyone to rediagnose or diagnose at all. I'm asking if people who make their livelihood analysing other's behavior can do exactly that using Mr Musk's Twitter-related behavior as input and can it be intelligibly explained , not that Mr Musk's and/or his behavior needs to show up and lay on a divan and pour its heart out and waive therapist-patient privilege so they can stream the session on YT like some cosmetic surgeons/dermatologists do. Are we gonna respond to written things or should we skip that pesky part and just rave about all the misconceptions we want to righteously pursue for points?

gustavus 3y ago

Clearly it's because he is offering to bankroll a supra-national group of elite soldiers to fight the alien menace that threatens our species and way of life, and he is hoping that "[Musk] has been chosen to lead this initiative. To oversee our first—and last—line of defense. His efforts will have considerable influence on this planet's future. We urge you to keep that in mind as he proceed. Good luck, Musk" - X-COM:Enemy Of Tesla

Enginerrrd 3y ago

I realize this is probably just a joke that isn't intended to actually add much to the discussion, but thankfully actual mental health professionals without an agenda wouldn't dare interpret something so trivial and shallow as that as serious evidence of pathology.

hutzlibu 3y ago
I don't think it is that shallow, but sure, no professional would judge on one incident alone. But otherwise there are plenty of other open examples of ... interesting behavior.
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  You can find many people with some credentials who volunteer a diagnosis https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=psychological+diagnosis+of+elon+musk https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=psychol... though the "Asperger's" story is the most repeated. Personally I think he's a schizotype because I think the vast majority of people who think they have Asperger's (I don't) are really schizotypes. I had a hard midlife crisis with a breakout of situational narcissism too but I got my ass kicked quickly in a gentle way.
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    I honestly feel bad in a detached way that people are "allowed" to ever get to this point. Its like those people born without pain/heat sensors (nociceptors?) who are technically painless/can tolerate any temperature but all that means is they never have a natural feedback loops that keeps them alive and thst they don't need to actively manage 24/7/365/80 if they even make it that far. We need to be told and hear things that are painful and force us to reevaluate. In the ab$ence of that, its financially/personally/socially ruinous. Suicidal even, some might infer
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    Can u briefly elaborate on the distinction as you view it?
    - PaulHoule 3y ago
      I got evaled for autism. My social perception is basically intact; there are certain things that autists are oblivious to that I perceive. However there is some kind of glitchiness that makes that perception seem to be a curse rather than a blessing. Maybe the glitchiness is not the social perception itself but the other cognitive processes that have to form a chain for it to work. Or maybe I am a bit inclined to be paranoid, or maybe it works too well and I see things people don't want me to see or maybe I find other people's emotions to be too overpowering. (Either way I didn't want to make eye contact as a kid)
      - Obscurity4340 3y ago
        Any like youtube level mainstream resources I can peruse to get a better idea of these things? I recently saw a psych and nothing like that came up?
      - Obscurity4340 3y ago
        What was the outcome, diagnostically speaking
      - Obscurity4340 3y ago
tczMUFlmoNk 3y ago
Yes, and moreover it is in the APA's Principles of Medical Ethics to decline to comment on public figures they haven't seen personally: > A physician shall recognize a responsibility to participate in activities contributing to the improvement of the community and the betterment of public health. > […] > On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  > Yess, and... no, and...\n no
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Honestly, I hate the notion of downvotes but this response is mighty tempting. You haven't answered the question in the way you think you have. Nobody is being solicited to legit provide a diagnosis of Mr. Musk. Imma call him that from now on like Mr. Trump. Also, I agree with the "comments in general" comment I'm saying, behavior analysis people: behavioral analyze this public record of nuts happenings and have and where have you seen this before?
Obscurity4340 3y ago
This could theoretically easily be accommodated by literally just describing the exact facts and events etc without naming the individual and simply requesting a behavioral analysis which is populated by all the publicly known info and requesting the therapeutic equivalent of a directed verdict which is open to the inclusion of more facts if anyone disagrees with the product of the inquiry
Obscurity4340 3y ago
Also, in what world is taking an established brand and renaming it a single alphabet letter based on a defunct previous investment trivial/shallow? Like, I get your point and obviously that act in and of itself is a shallow ridiculous thing but i feel like you're heavily underststing how truly asinine the whole saga is to the extent that calling it shallow is beyond incomprehensible. Thats pretty extreme. He might as well have named it 42 since thats "the answer", no?

robotburrito 3y ago

It just might be his age. In the 90s "X" was super cool in the culture that people his age may have been into. In particular comic books. X-Men, X-Factor, X-Force, Gen-X, etc... No clue though.

soneca 3y ago
There was a Brazilian billionaire also obsessed with “X”, Eike Batista. “X” had a mystical significance for him, it meant a multiplier or whatever. He would name all of his companies with “X” too, before Musk I believe. But he was a much more “on-paper” billionaire because his wealth was tied to some oil companies that had that valuation only on paper. It was tied to finding a lot of oil on some places. When that didn’t happen, all that “wealth” went to dust and he was back to being “only” a multimillionaire.
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Interesting twist :)
Tao3300 3y ago
X the Owl.
- webnrrd2k 3y ago
  I was thinking Malcolm the Tenth
rchaud 3y ago
PayPal was called X.com when Musk was there. That's it.
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Who named it that? Musk? Or is it like Tesla where he co-founded it after it had been founded?

robswc 3y ago

FWIW, "Twitter" is 1000x better than "X" but... >I wonder if any psychologist or mental health professional has done an analysis of Musk's `X` obsession Only if said psychologist wants to look ridiculous. >I wonder if its in reference to the variable x since it can be anything he assigns it I mean, clearly? I don't even think that's a secret. >Its definitely a common narcissistic trait IMO its fine to dislike Musk but suggesting someone is a narcissist because they like the letter X is an insane stretch. Especially from an armchair.

Zetobal 3y ago
I mean looking into his mental state is certainly not ridiculous. No matter for or against Musk's his politics, business ventures or 4chan edgelord shit. Being in his position must leave marks on your mental health.
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquired_situational_narcissism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquired_situational_narcissis...
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    Best answer, Jesus. Quite the community debate we got running here.
- robswc 3y ago
  >I mean looking into his mental state is certainly not ridiculous I think trying to diagnose people with anything over the internet is a dangerous precedence. I think people are free to speculate, I just don't think it is at all productive. I mean, I honestly think he has some form of bi-polar but trying to diagnose narcissism because he likes the letter X and what it implies is crazy. It would be like me saying OP has agoraphobia because he has "obscurity" in his name. I could be right on both accounts but making diagnoses over the internet never ends well.

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Obscurity4340 3y ago

So me and my compatriot Sherlock have concurred that the problem here is nobody is responding to the actual prompt here. I said more or less that I wondered if there have been any analyses done on the specific concept of being obsessed with a letter of the alphabet as it relates to Musk's context and also I am being a bit reductive in my summary here but I feel like I'm not doing it injustice because there's a bit of a rhetorical fire that needs to lit to help get a proper response to this inquiry that so far has only yielded maybe like 2 passable responses Behavior can be analysed and parsed. Nobody is asking for anyone to rediagnose or diagnose at all. I'm asking if people who make their livelihood analysing other's behavior can do exactly that using Mr Musk's Twitter-related behavior as input and can it be intelligibly explained , not that Mr Musk's and/or his behavior needs to show up and lay on a divan and pour its heart out and waive therapist-patient privilege so they can stream the session on YT like some cosmetic surgeons/dermatologists do. Are we gonna respond to written things or should we skip that pesky part and just rave about all the misconceptions we want to righteously pursue for points?