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Can't wait for it to be complete trash in Windows and continue to suffer the same issues I've had with every snap dragon powered windows machine including the d

Can't wait for it to be complete trash in Windows and continue to suffer the same issues I've had with every snap dragon powered windows machine including the devbox 2023. GPU driver will crash under heavy web rendering loads (twitter gif heavy threads), It will probably be undercooled causing P cores to be kneecapped push applications to the E cores as soon as it warms up, and never let them go back. Although I will note the MS ARM devbox at least was adequately cooled, if poorly vented so this was a rare occasion. On top of that linux support will be non-existent leaving you to struggle as microsoft's most underserved user population. Good luck anyone who makes the dive, even as an ARM enthusiast I gave up on qualcomm products as a whole.

Moral_ 3y ago
The chip already has upstream linux support, the benchmarks they showed in their presentation was on 6.5
- wtallis 3y ago
  Did they show any GPU benchmarks or otherwise give an indication that the Linux support will be relatively full-featured? Because what I've seen so far is just a Geekbench CPU score on Linux that was significantly higher than the Windows score because fan control wasn't working on Linux.
  - hmottestad 3y ago
    Dunno myself, but I do remember that the company behind the initial chip design was targeting the server market, so that’s probably the reason for Linux support. I kinda doubt that the GPU has any Linux support, it’s just a regular Qualcomm developed GPU.
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- viraptor 3y ago
  By upstream support, do you mean the relevant device trees and drivers have been contributed to the kernel already? (I'm asking because there are some listed here https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges#Linux_6.5.ARM https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges#Linux_6.5.ARM but they seem to be a different model)
tssva 3y ago
"It will probably be undercooled causing P cores to be kneecapped push applications to the E cores as soon as it warms up, and never let them go back." It doesn't have any E cores.

Moral_ 3y ago

The chip already has upstream linux support, the benchmarks they showed in their presentation was on 6.5

wtallis 3y ago
Did they show any GPU benchmarks or otherwise give an indication that the Linux support will be relatively full-featured? Because what I've seen so far is just a Geekbench CPU score on Linux that was significantly higher than the Windows score because fan control wasn't working on Linux.
- hmottestad 3y ago
  Dunno myself, but I do remember that the company behind the initial chip design was targeting the server market, so that’s probably the reason for Linux support. I kinda doubt that the GPU has any Linux support, it’s just a regular Qualcomm developed GPU.
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viraptor 3y ago
By upstream support, do you mean the relevant device trees and drivers have been contributed to the kernel already? (I'm asking because there are some listed here https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges#Linux_6.5.ARM https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges#Linux_6.5.ARM but they seem to be a different model)

tssva 3y ago

"It will probably be undercooled causing P cores to be kneecapped push applications to the E cores as soon as it warms up, and never let them go back." It doesn't have any E cores.