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A lot of people argue what’s the point when the normal individual is so much less responsible than the billionaires, and the normal country is so much less than

A lot of people argue what’s the point when the normal individual is so much less responsible than the billionaires, and the normal country is so much less than the largest

11235813213455 3y ago
it's really https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox, normal people impact is lower, but they are more numerous, we are sand grains
- eddtries 3y ago
  Maybe, but tell that to the individual! I’m cynical against peoples behaviour, I truly believe we won’t change and funds/research should be directed to mitigation than prevention.
- hotnfresh 3y ago
  The trouble is that notably cutting personal carbon emissions comes at a fairly high individual cost, but has basically no effect unless a whole lot of other people do it, too. If they don’t, you’ve harmed yourself significantly for effectively no reason—no meaningful good was accomplished. The greater direct effect at much lower real personal cost, for billionaires, plus the greater likelihood of their influencing others to follow suit, makes the calculus a bit different for them. The tragedy of the commons is a real sonofabitch.
  - CapstanRoller 3y ago
    >The tragedy of the commons is a real sonofabitch. The "tragedy of the commons" is a propaganda tool used to justify privatization of the commons. The commons were reasonably well-managed until a small number of people decided to extract maximum profit from them (and damn the consequences). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclosure_Acts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclosure_Acts The law locks up the man or woman Who steals the goose from off the common But leaves the greater villain loose Who steals the common from off the goose The law demands that we atone When we take things we do not own But leaves the lords and ladies fine Who take things that are yours and mine The poor and wretched don't escape If they conspire the law to break This must be so but they endure Those who conspire to make the law The law locks up the man or woman Who steals the goose from off the common And geese will still a common lack Till they go and steal it back

A lot of people argue what’s the point when the normal individual is so much less responsible than the billionaires, and the normal country is so much less than the largest

11235813213455 3y ago

it's really https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox, normal people impact is lower, but they are more numerous, we are sand grains

eddtries 3y ago
Maybe, but tell that to the individual! I’m cynical against peoples behaviour, I truly believe we won’t change and funds/research should be directed to mitigation than prevention.
hotnfresh 3y ago
The trouble is that notably cutting personal carbon emissions comes at a fairly high individual cost, but has basically no effect unless a whole lot of other people do it, too. If they don’t, you’ve harmed yourself significantly for effectively no reason—no meaningful good was accomplished. The greater direct effect at much lower real personal cost, for billionaires, plus the greater likelihood of their influencing others to follow suit, makes the calculus a bit different for them. The tragedy of the commons is a real sonofabitch.
- CapstanRoller 3y ago
  >The tragedy of the commons is a real sonofabitch. The "tragedy of the commons" is a propaganda tool used to justify privatization of the commons. The commons were reasonably well-managed until a small number of people decided to extract maximum profit from them (and damn the consequences). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclosure_Acts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclosure_Acts The law locks up the man or woman Who steals the goose from off the common But leaves the greater villain loose Who steals the common from off the goose The law demands that we atone When we take things we do not own But leaves the lords and ladies fine Who take things that are yours and mine The poor and wretched don't escape If they conspire the law to break This must be so but they endure Those who conspire to make the law The law locks up the man or woman Who steals the goose from off the common And geese will still a common lack Till they go and steal it back