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Why should they have to put in all the work to attempt (there is zero guarantee the union can be reformed and that trying to reform it will not result in retali
by gs17 3y ago
Why should they have to put in all the work to attempt (there is zero guarantee the union can be reformed and that trying to reform it will not result in retaliation) to make the union actually represent workers? Why is it their responsibility to fight both their employer and the union? Sure, it would be great if they could fix it, but there's no motivation to get so involved when you can sidestep the union like they mentioned and benefit more.
> Some unions in the U.S. have really degenerated after decades of hostility from employers and their political representatives in all branches of government (most notably, the judiciary and National Labor Relations Board).
Or things like a lot of peoples' only interaction with a union being "you can't do that yourself, pay our toll or else", "you can't get something you want, we're not working", or "we can't get rid of that bad employee" (not to mention public sector unions). To be fair, it's hard PR when "we got health insurance" doesn't matter to anyone outside the union, but a lot of unions have worked hard to have a poor public opinion. The big labor wins (we don't have to work in a coal mine 80 hours a week!) are taken for granted now.
- robswc 3y ago>to fight both their employer and the union Exactly my issue with Unions. Now you basically have two bosses. Unions are supposed to be on your side... and they are... until you don't agree with them. Reminds me of my time in college where it was all "we accept everyone and love diversity of thought" -- unless those thoughts were outside the window of "acceptable thoughts" and that window is not very big.