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Why not just create a personal bot trainer? There are lots more ways to accomplish what you need without developers allowing you to use bots. The idea is silly

Why not just create a personal bot trainer? There are lots more ways to accomplish what you need without developers allowing you to use bots. The idea is silly really, it's like asking Infinity Ward and DICE to make Aimbot/wallhack servers for people to practice their AI skills. This would ruin gaming experience for those who don't participate in botting or AI programming. For what? A couple thousand sales? It's not worth the headache.

anthonyb 15y ago
aimbots and wallhacks aren't AI though - they're cheats.
- millzlane 15y ago
  Bots that farm, hunt, gain xp ect. while your are away are cheats. Automated actions with no effort from the player is cheating.
  - anthonyb 15y ago
    Then the game is too simple. Rather than hunt down bots, they should make a more interesting game. The bots are a symptom, not a problem in themselves.
    - gyardley 15y ago
      Too simple for whom? I know I've been interested in and enjoyed many games that could be effectively botted - including some where you farm / hunt / gain XP. Saying that these games are 'too simple' and shouldn't exist sounds a little arrogant, no?
      - anthonyb 15y ago
        Most of the games which end up fighting tooth-and-nail trench warfare against bots are just boring games. I don't think expressing that opinion is arrogance, per se. Take games like minecraft or first person shooters like TF2, for example - there isn't a bot problem there for the most part (cheaters perhaps, but not bots), but farm and grind games like WoW or Farmville are rife with it. This is because WoW and Farmville are fundamentally pretty boring, but people want the shiny loot at the end.
        gyardley 15y ago
        'Boring' is subjective. There are millions upon millions of people who genuinely enjoy Farmville or WoW. I personally can't wait for Diablo III to come out, which will almost certainly be farm & grindy. There exists a subset of games with large, engaged audiences and a user experience that is weakened by the presence of bots. The appropriate thing to do in this situation is ban bots. Whether you're interested or not in that subset of games is irrelevant.
        anthonyb 15y ago
        Boring, but addictive. Without the brain-hook of watching your stats go up, would you still be that interested in playing Diablo? Just think of all of the other types of games that might be made instead of the umpteenth iteration of UO/Everquest/WoW/Diablo. UO was released 15 years ago, and we still have the same fundamental game.

anthonyb 15y ago

aimbots and wallhacks aren't AI though - they're cheats.

millzlane 15y ago
Bots that farm, hunt, gain xp ect. while your are away are cheats. Automated actions with no effort from the player is cheating.
- anthonyb 15y ago
  Then the game is too simple. Rather than hunt down bots, they should make a more interesting game. The bots are a symptom, not a problem in themselves.
  - gyardley 15y ago
    Too simple for whom? I know I've been interested in and enjoyed many games that could be effectively botted - including some where you farm / hunt / gain XP. Saying that these games are 'too simple' and shouldn't exist sounds a little arrogant, no?
    - anthonyb 15y ago
      Most of the games which end up fighting tooth-and-nail trench warfare against bots are just boring games. I don't think expressing that opinion is arrogance, per se. Take games like minecraft or first person shooters like TF2, for example - there isn't a bot problem there for the most part (cheaters perhaps, but not bots), but farm and grind games like WoW or Farmville are rife with it. This is because WoW and Farmville are fundamentally pretty boring, but people want the shiny loot at the end.
      - gyardley 15y ago
        'Boring' is subjective. There are millions upon millions of people who genuinely enjoy Farmville or WoW. I personally can't wait for Diablo III to come out, which will almost certainly be farm & grindy. There exists a subset of games with large, engaged audiences and a user experience that is weakened by the presence of bots. The appropriate thing to do in this situation is ban bots. Whether you're interested or not in that subset of games is irrelevant.
        anthonyb 15y ago
        Boring, but addictive. Without the brain-hook of watching your stats go up, would you still be that interested in playing Diablo? Just think of all of the other types of games that might be made instead of the umpteenth iteration of UO/Everquest/WoW/Diablo. UO was released 15 years ago, and we still have the same fundamental game.