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Skinny fat founder strips for launch of startup

52 points by Julianhearn 15y ago

AznHisoka 15y ago
Funny.. InternetBrands was inquiring about my health affiliate site around 2011 as well. But I made the opposite decision: not to sell for high 6 figures. A month later, Panda happened and traffic dropped 90%. Ouch =( BodyHacks looks cool, reminds me of what Tim Ferriss was doing for 4 Hour Body.
- Julianhearn 15y ago
  Sorry to hear that Aznhisoka, panda did hurt a lot people. Thanks for the kind comment about Bodyhack, we are super excited about it.
- StavrosK 15y ago
  For those of us who don't know, what's Panda?
  - MichaelJW 15y ago
    A change to Google's ranking algorithm that was rolled out last year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda
    - StavrosK 15y ago
      I see, thank you.
  - Julianhearn 15y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda
friggybum 15y ago
Julian, there are quite a bit of typos on your site. Copy with typos doesn't lend credibility. Would you like some assistance with proofreading? Congratulations on your work, and I think the site is a good idea. I wonder: perhaps since you're offering your site as an alternative to broscience [as linked] you could use phrases like "we believe" or "it is theorized" or support your nutritional claims with the science behind them. For instance you say that it is a good idea to supplement omega fats, despite getting plenty of them in the diet. There are those who would disagree and say that as long as you're maintaining ~1:1-1:3 ratios of o3:o6 you're a-ok.
- Julianhearn 15y ago
  Hi Friggybum, Thank you for your kind comments, and thanks for the offer. I would love some help with proofreading, my email is julian@bodyhack.com Many thanks, Julian.
  - dav-id 15y ago
    Personal pet peeve of mine is saying "brought" when you mean "bought" on the page: http://www.bodyhack.com/men/six-pack-and-11-5-body-fat-in-12-weeks#buy http://www.bodyhack.com/men/six-pack-and-11-5-body-fat-in-12... *though my written skills are poor so it is like the pot calling the kettle black!
- Stratoscope 15y ago
  I wouldn't normally comment on this, but since you're offering proofreading services... :-) "Julian, there are quite a bit of typos on your site." Maybe you meant: "Julian, there are quite a few typos on your site." The phrase "quite a bit of" refers to something you measure, not something you count. And it would never be worded "there are quite a bit of..." So you might say: "There are quite a few eggs in that basket." "There is quite a bit of snow on that mountain." (edit with one more thought...) One good way to help keep this straight is to remove the word "quite": "There are a few eggs in that basket." "There is a bit of snow on that mountain."
  - 15y ago
desigooner 15y ago
As far as nutrition & supplements, examine.com is a great resource that dissects various studies and presents information in an easy to digest fashion E.g. Fish Oil: http://examine.com/supplements/Fish+Oil/ http://examine.com/supplements/Fish+Oil/
- aaxe 15y ago
  Also a useful FAQ section: http://examine.com/faq/ http://examine.com/faq/
codesuela 15y ago
my first thought was: how is this different from all those ebook merchants that promise you become the terminator in 7 days but then by skimming through http://www.bodyhack.com/men/six-pack-and-11-5-body-fat-in-12-weeks http://www.bodyhack.com/men/six-pack-and-11-5-body-fat-in-12... I actually found it to be pretty reasonable. To be perfectly honest though I suppose this only appealing to men with the advertised body shape (naturally skinny) and Julian with 68.5 kg doesn't look very healthy or good to me but I'm not a woman and to each his own so please don't take this as a personal insult. I figure some critical feedback is better then none.
- Julianhearn 15y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. I'm the first, and yes I'm a bit skinny but we have all shapes and sizes in the pipeline. Michael for example was certainly not skinny when he started. More plans will be added over the next 10 days as people complete their challenges. We have a female too.
  - anonym9 15y ago
    It would be amazing to see more than one plan for females. Also, will there be a provision for people who are sensitive to certain supplements? For example I am unable to take stimulants, even tea, so it would be nice for me to choose a regimen which I knew in advance was based around something else.
- dgallagher 15y ago
  Julian looks athletic in the final pictures, like a distance runner or triathlete. As a distance runner I have a similar body type too. At the gym you'll see a wide array of body types. Lean and mean, all the way up to muscular and bulky, and all things in-between. Body builders are HUGE compared to me and can lift far more than I can, but I can absolutely "destroy" them on a treadmill. You tend to discover the thing you like doing, specialize in it, and dominate it. What you choose to do partially dictates what you'll end up looking like.
  - codesuela 15y ago
edw519 15y ago
Impressive, but who wants to look at some half naked dude when you could look at this: +-------------------------+ +-------------------------+ | BEFORE | | AFTER | | | | | | Lines of Code: 33,467 | | Lines of Code: 11,261 | | Bug Rate: .037% | | Bug Rate: .013% | | Daily visitors: 13,239 | | Daily visitors: 59,283 | | Conversion rate: 3.2% | | Conversion rate: 6.9% | | Daily revenue: $3,932 | | Daily revenue: $9,321 | | HN Front Page: 0 | | HN Front Page: 22 | | | | | +-------------------------+ +-------------------------+
- ericflo 15y ago
  I don't understand the relevance, can you please provide some context?
  - tptacek 15y ago
    "We're all entrepreneurs here and we all know what actually matters, so if you had just told us about your business and what you did to grow it, you could have skipped the half naked picture." Which, agreed.
    - ericflo 15y ago
      Fair enough. The thing is though, he posted it on the BodyHack blog. We may all be entrepreneurs here, but are all of their readers? I'd be cautious in judging him too much.
      - tptacek 15y ago
        That is a very good point. Thank you.
ajays 15y ago
For those of us too .. ahem .. cheap to cough up the dough for a meal plan and an exercise plan, are there any free options? I'd like to get back into shape again, the winter months were brutal to the waistline.
- mikeryan 15y ago
  Run & Count Calories (or Low Carb). Couch to 5k if you've never ran before http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml If you're a geek get an app like Livestrong's which makes it really easy to count calories. There's several online calculators which will give you a good guess on a caloric intake for weight loss though a visit to a nutritionist would get you a more personalized number. If you don't like counting calories the low carb solutions are a little more "livable" you can go out with friends and get a salad pretty much anywhere. But bread is tasty.
  - rubashov 15y ago
    Running is not a good way to get low body fat such as in the picture. To get that ripped, lean look you actually want to avoid aerobic exercise and stressing the glycogen system. Intermittent fasting (only eat once or twice a day) and relatively intense, infrequent strength training (some olympic lifts twice a week) is the way to go. See leangains.com
    - niels_olson 15y ago
      perhaps, but running is better heart health. I don't know anyone who died of punny biceps, but 50% of Americans still die of heart attacks.
      - rubashov 15y ago
        Long distance running is not especially good for health or the heart. Marathon running and long distance cycling are actually quite bad for the heart. There's a ton of stuff out there now about disturbing rates of sclerosis in marathon runners. http://www.arthurdevany.com/articles/20091028 http://www.arthurdevany.com/articles/20091028 Running 5Ks (not crazy distances) is surely a lot better than doing nothing, but I don't think there's any evidence it's better for you than other pursuits. Olympic lifters have excellent blood profiles and body composition, for example. Probably true of squash players. Running is popular because it requires zero athletic ability and no equipment.
dbalatero 15y ago
I'm also interested in how to maintain body shape once you hit your 12-week goal. It seems like the exercise plan might get modified at that point. Do you have any plans to address that?
- Julianhearn 15y ago
  Hi dbalatero, Yes we will provide a maintenance plan. We will make that clearer on the site. Thanks for the feedback. Julian.
beswift 15y ago
Very cool idea! I've been wanting to create something similar since reading 4 hour body (but am no where near proficient at building stuff yet!). One thing think iwould be really useful and would help help the site stay relevant into the future would be to add some type of genetic relevance component. Users could upload their profile from 23andme (or other site) and compare effectiveness of various methods across varying alleles. There is a really cool android app (diygenomics) that would give you a base for health and fitness related markers)
carguy1983 15y ago
Question for founder: do you get a better user response from highlighting your own progress pics, or Michael's? I would imagine most people look more like Michael than you (I wouldn't even call you skinnyfat, just skinny) - do you get a better response from people who want to go from decent condition to ultra fit like your 'after' pics, or from overweight people who are looking to get un-fat?
- Julianhearn 15y ago
  Hi Carguy, It is fair question. The simple answer is... I don't know. The site only launched today. We have a range of body types going through challenges but I was the first to finish the 12 weeks. Michael has also finished but we haven't got all his data into the site yet. But I think you are right, there will be more people bigger than me who what to get in shape, than people my size. But we will just have to wait and see. Thanks, Julian.
  - neutronicus 15y ago
    I've always found it a little depressing how many strength / fitness programs want to take the skinny, flexible guy and turn him into the Hulk, instead of taking the fat, inflexible guy and turning him into ... something other than fat and inflexible.
zavulon 15y ago
I found that for me personally, getting fit is not a problem, it's keeping the weight off is the issue. Sure, the 12 week program looks impressive, and I have no doubt that if closely monitor everything, providing details of every single meal and exact exercise you have to do, anyone with enough willpower can achieve the goal. But what's next?
- bitsoda 15y ago
  This is why I eschew any type of program that isn't sustainable. I'd rather be in fairly decent shape all the time by making sound decisions in terms of diet and exercise than be a glistening mound of underwear-worthy male model. Eating clean with a few bodyweight exercises and about 5,000 steps/day sprinkled into the week usually does the trick.
- getsat 15y ago
  If you exercise regularly and you're still gaining weight, your diet is likely the culprit. Most people have no idea just how horrid their diets are.
- ljf 15y ago
  Then its finding something you love. I am happy carrying on the slowcarb diet, but its daily cycling that's really got and kept me in shape. I am happier if I've riden to work now, and feel great.
inovica 15y ago
I've just done a 12-week body transformation course here with personal trainers (5 days a week) and its amazing what results you can get. Through diet coaching, weights and cardio tailored for me I have loads more energy and look great. The key now is not to slip back into old ways so they are doing another programme about maintaining everything and are moving more into yoga. One thing - on your video the guy says $10/month but you are charging £10/month.
- Julianhearn 15y ago
  Sorry about that we had a change of heart at the last minute, and decided to target the UK, as it's the smaller market, and get some initial data before "launching" to the US.
antidaily 15y ago
Do you always blog and submit posts in the third person? Just kidding - congrats on what looks like a good idea. Look out, Tony Horton.
noja 15y ago
There is no way those body fat percentages are correct.
- Julianhearn 15y ago
  Hi Noja, What make you say that? We were extremely careful when measuring body fat. We used the 4 point test, using body fat calipers. It is seen as a reliable test. Regards, Julian.
  - noja 15y ago
    My bathroom scales measure body fat, and they read 10% for me. A friend of mine's scales put him at 20%. I don't look like him on the right, and my friend doesn't look like him on the left...
    - boundlessdreamz 15y ago
      Bathroom scales cannot reliably measure body fat % from what I know. They try to measure impedence and it is affected by many factors - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioelectrical_impedance_analysis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioelectrical_impedance_analysi... 10% is an extremely low body fat %. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage#Typical_body_fat_amounts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage#Typical_bod...
vaksel 15y ago
how do we know he did it just by following the program...and not by hiring a personal trainer and a personal chef...or by simply doing 4 hours of exercise every day? since the other co-founder is a personal trainer...I'd imagine it was a bit more hands on, than just using a website. there is a lot of financial incentive here to improve the shown results
ericmsimons 15y ago
I'm getting an error when I sign up saying that my email address isn't valid...?
cdrxndr 15y ago
First thing I noticed is that they ripped off the Apple-Command key design for their logo. Couldn't find anything about copyright/trademark on the symbol ... anyone know if it was used prior to Apple (or is in the public domain)?
chrisacky 15y ago
I really really struggle with proper eating when it comes to my workouts. I'm a vegetarian and have been all my life. But I eat so much crap. I would say that 70%~ of my diet is made up of carbs. It's really ridiculous. I also find that I usually don't have my first meal of the day until about 4-5pm. Which is usually a plain cheese sandwhich, a pizza or home cooked noodles with vegetables. Being a vegetarian and disliking cooking is a pretty tough deal! Ha. Also julian, I tried to email you from your website, but your contact form is broken, after Googling for 5 minutes to find your contact information I couldn't find anything for bodyhack. Do you have an actual email? (Finding this on your site was impossible).
- Tichy 15y ago
  I don't think carbs are necessarily bad. Vegetarianism was long deemed healthy (maybe still), and I don't see how low carb should be possible for vegertarians (if you have ideas, please tell me). I have a non-proven theory: perhaps humans can adapt do different diets, not only different environments. Or actually in former times the environment pretty much dictated the diets. So if humans were good at settling in diverse environments, it practically follows that they are good at adapting to different diets. So maybe not the modern 90% junk diet (sugars and white flour), but the difference between low and high carb might not be so important. Also not sure why pizza tends to be condemned so much. Sure, if you buy a pizza at a restaurant, it is probably soaked in fat and covered with cheap cheese. But if I make one at home, it tends to have a lot of vegetables on it, and the amount of cheese doesn't have to be excessive. It seems at least healthier than the average cheese sandwich.
- ljf 15y ago
  eat beans, I eat them pretty much every meal. also force yourself to eat within 30 minutes of waking, I used to be like you, some days only eating dinner.
vijayr 15y ago
bought a plan, out of curiosity. while I don't doubt the results, the website is quite un-friendly for beginners. 1. There is just one line, saying "if you don't know what this means, just go to bodybuilding.com and search for it". It'd take a couple of minutes to directly link the exercises to their video pages, and save a lot of time and frustration for the users. 2. As someone pointed out, quite a few minor spelling/grammatical mistakes, even on the FAQ page 3. "We will provide fitness plan that can completed at home with zero equipment." - doesn't seem like it I'm not trying to be negative or anything, just trying to make it a bit more user friendly. The website itself is very straightforward, so it would be nice if the founders can do these minor tweaks.
prsutherland 15y ago
I'm a little disappointed to find out that it is £10 a month per plan. The messaging is not clear that I am buying one plan and not just access to the website as a whole. Why would I want to keep paying £10 a month for the same plan? I'd just pay once, download it and print it out and be gone. Only reason I'd stick around is to see new plans.
dwharden 14y ago
Received a coupon code for a free month, but was immediately charged anyway. Tried to email the address that sent the coupon code, and it failed. Tried to use the contact form on the site, and it failed (it says I need to fill out the word in the image, but there's no CAPTCHA on the page). Not a great first impression.

52 points by Julianhearn 15y ago

Funny.. InternetBrands was inquiring about my health affiliate site around 2011 as well. But I made the opposite decision: not to sell for high 6 figures. A month later, Panda happened and traffic dropped 90%. Ouch =( BodyHacks looks cool, reminds me of what Tim Ferriss was doing for 4 Hour Body.

Julianhearn 15y ago
Sorry to hear that Aznhisoka, panda did hurt a lot people. Thanks for the kind comment about Bodyhack, we are super excited about it.
StavrosK 15y ago
For those of us who don't know, what's Panda?
- MichaelJW 15y ago
  A change to Google's ranking algorithm that was rolled out last year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda
  - StavrosK 15y ago
    I see, thank you.
- Julianhearn 15y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda

friggybum 15y ago

Julian, there are quite a bit of typos on your site. Copy with typos doesn't lend credibility. Would you like some assistance with proofreading? Congratulations on your work, and I think the site is a good idea. I wonder: perhaps since you're offering your site as an alternative to broscience [as linked] you could use phrases like "we believe" or "it is theorized" or support your nutritional claims with the science behind them. For instance you say that it is a good idea to supplement omega fats, despite getting plenty of them in the diet. There are those who would disagree and say that as long as you're maintaining ~1:1-1:3 ratios of o3:o6 you're a-ok.

Julianhearn 15y ago
Hi Friggybum, Thank you for your kind comments, and thanks for the offer. I would love some help with proofreading, my email is julian@bodyhack.com Many thanks, Julian.
- dav-id 15y ago
  Personal pet peeve of mine is saying "brought" when you mean "bought" on the page: http://www.bodyhack.com/men/six-pack-and-11-5-body-fat-in-12-weeks#buy http://www.bodyhack.com/men/six-pack-and-11-5-body-fat-in-12... *though my written skills are poor so it is like the pot calling the kettle black!
Stratoscope 15y ago
I wouldn't normally comment on this, but since you're offering proofreading services... :-) "Julian, there are quite a bit of typos on your site." Maybe you meant: "Julian, there are quite a few typos on your site." The phrase "quite a bit of" refers to something you measure, not something you count. And it would never be worded "there are quite a bit of..." So you might say: "There are quite a few eggs in that basket." "There is quite a bit of snow on that mountain." (edit with one more thought...) One good way to help keep this straight is to remove the word "quite": "There are a few eggs in that basket." "There is a bit of snow on that mountain."
- 15y ago

desigooner 15y ago

As far as nutrition & supplements, examine.com is a great resource that dissects various studies and presents information in an easy to digest fashion E.g. Fish Oil: http://examine.com/supplements/Fish+Oil/ http://examine.com/supplements/Fish+Oil/

aaxe 15y ago
Also a useful FAQ section: http://examine.com/faq/ http://examine.com/faq/

codesuela 15y ago

my first thought was: how is this different from all those ebook merchants that promise you become the terminator in 7 days but then by skimming through http://www.bodyhack.com/men/six-pack-and-11-5-body-fat-in-12-weeks http://www.bodyhack.com/men/six-pack-and-11-5-body-fat-in-12... I actually found it to be pretty reasonable. To be perfectly honest though I suppose this only appealing to men with the advertised body shape (naturally skinny) and Julian with 68.5 kg doesn't look very healthy or good to me but I'm not a woman and to each his own so please don't take this as a personal insult. I figure some critical feedback is better then none.

Julianhearn 15y ago
Thanks for the feedback. I'm the first, and yes I'm a bit skinny but we have all shapes and sizes in the pipeline. Michael for example was certainly not skinny when he started. More plans will be added over the next 10 days as people complete their challenges. We have a female too.
- anonym9 15y ago
  It would be amazing to see more than one plan for females. Also, will there be a provision for people who are sensitive to certain supplements? For example I am unable to take stimulants, even tea, so it would be nice for me to choose a regimen which I knew in advance was based around something else.
dgallagher 15y ago
Julian looks athletic in the final pictures, like a distance runner or triathlete. As a distance runner I have a similar body type too. At the gym you'll see a wide array of body types. Lean and mean, all the way up to muscular and bulky, and all things in-between. Body builders are HUGE compared to me and can lift far more than I can, but I can absolutely "destroy" them on a treadmill. You tend to discover the thing you like doing, specialize in it, and dominate it. What you choose to do partially dictates what you'll end up looking like.
- codesuela 15y ago

edw519 15y ago

ericflo 15y ago
I don't understand the relevance, can you please provide some context?
- tptacek 15y ago
  "We're all entrepreneurs here and we all know what actually matters, so if you had just told us about your business and what you did to grow it, you could have skipped the half naked picture." Which, agreed.
  - ericflo 15y ago
    Fair enough. The thing is though, he posted it on the BodyHack blog. We may all be entrepreneurs here, but are all of their readers? I'd be cautious in judging him too much.
    - tptacek 15y ago
      That is a very good point. Thank you.

ajays 15y ago

For those of us too .. ahem .. cheap to cough up the dough for a meal plan and an exercise plan, are there any free options? I'd like to get back into shape again, the winter months were brutal to the waistline.

mikeryan 15y ago
Run & Count Calories (or Low Carb). Couch to 5k if you've never ran before http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml If you're a geek get an app like Livestrong's which makes it really easy to count calories. There's several online calculators which will give you a good guess on a caloric intake for weight loss though a visit to a nutritionist would get you a more personalized number. If you don't like counting calories the low carb solutions are a little more "livable" you can go out with friends and get a salad pretty much anywhere. But bread is tasty.
- rubashov 15y ago
  Running is not a good way to get low body fat such as in the picture. To get that ripped, lean look you actually want to avoid aerobic exercise and stressing the glycogen system. Intermittent fasting (only eat once or twice a day) and relatively intense, infrequent strength training (some olympic lifts twice a week) is the way to go. See leangains.com
  - niels_olson 15y ago
    perhaps, but running is better heart health. I don't know anyone who died of punny biceps, but 50% of Americans still die of heart attacks.
    - rubashov 15y ago
      Long distance running is not especially good for health or the heart. Marathon running and long distance cycling are actually quite bad for the heart. There's a ton of stuff out there now about disturbing rates of sclerosis in marathon runners. http://www.arthurdevany.com/articles/20091028 http://www.arthurdevany.com/articles/20091028 Running 5Ks (not crazy distances) is surely a lot better than doing nothing, but I don't think there's any evidence it's better for you than other pursuits. Olympic lifters have excellent blood profiles and body composition, for example. Probably true of squash players. Running is popular because it requires zero athletic ability and no equipment.

dbalatero 15y ago

I'm also interested in how to maintain body shape once you hit your 12-week goal. It seems like the exercise plan might get modified at that point. Do you have any plans to address that?

Julianhearn 15y ago
Hi dbalatero, Yes we will provide a maintenance plan. We will make that clearer on the site. Thanks for the feedback. Julian.

beswift 15y ago

Very cool idea! I've been wanting to create something similar since reading 4 hour body (but am no where near proficient at building stuff yet!). One thing think iwould be really useful and would help help the site stay relevant into the future would be to add some type of genetic relevance component. Users could upload their profile from 23andme (or other site) and compare effectiveness of various methods across varying alleles. There is a really cool android app (diygenomics) that would give you a base for health and fitness related markers)

carguy1983 15y ago

Question for founder: do you get a better user response from highlighting your own progress pics, or Michael's? I would imagine most people look more like Michael than you (I wouldn't even call you skinnyfat, just skinny) - do you get a better response from people who want to go from decent condition to ultra fit like your 'after' pics, or from overweight people who are looking to get un-fat?

Julianhearn 15y ago
Hi Carguy, It is fair question. The simple answer is... I don't know. The site only launched today. We have a range of body types going through challenges but I was the first to finish the 12 weeks. Michael has also finished but we haven't got all his data into the site yet. But I think you are right, there will be more people bigger than me who what to get in shape, than people my size. But we will just have to wait and see. Thanks, Julian.
- neutronicus 15y ago
  I've always found it a little depressing how many strength / fitness programs want to take the skinny, flexible guy and turn him into the Hulk, instead of taking the fat, inflexible guy and turning him into ... something other than fat and inflexible.

zavulon 15y ago

I found that for me personally, getting fit is not a problem, it's keeping the weight off is the issue. Sure, the 12 week program looks impressive, and I have no doubt that if closely monitor everything, providing details of every single meal and exact exercise you have to do, anyone with enough willpower can achieve the goal. But what's next?

bitsoda 15y ago
This is why I eschew any type of program that isn't sustainable. I'd rather be in fairly decent shape all the time by making sound decisions in terms of diet and exercise than be a glistening mound of underwear-worthy male model. Eating clean with a few bodyweight exercises and about 5,000 steps/day sprinkled into the week usually does the trick.
getsat 15y ago
If you exercise regularly and you're still gaining weight, your diet is likely the culprit. Most people have no idea just how horrid their diets are.
ljf 15y ago
Then its finding something you love. I am happy carrying on the slowcarb diet, but its daily cycling that's really got and kept me in shape. I am happier if I've riden to work now, and feel great.

inovica 15y ago

I've just done a 12-week body transformation course here with personal trainers (5 days a week) and its amazing what results you can get. Through diet coaching, weights and cardio tailored for me I have loads more energy and look great. The key now is not to slip back into old ways so they are doing another programme about maintaining everything and are moving more into yoga. One thing - on your video the guy says $10/month but you are charging £10/month.

Julianhearn 15y ago
Sorry about that we had a change of heart at the last minute, and decided to target the UK, as it's the smaller market, and get some initial data before "launching" to the US.

antidaily 15y ago

Do you always blog and submit posts in the third person? Just kidding - congrats on what looks like a good idea. Look out, Tony Horton.

noja 15y ago

There is no way those body fat percentages are correct.

Julianhearn 15y ago
Hi Noja, What make you say that? We were extremely careful when measuring body fat. We used the 4 point test, using body fat calipers. It is seen as a reliable test. Regards, Julian.
- noja 15y ago
  My bathroom scales measure body fat, and they read 10% for me. A friend of mine's scales put him at 20%. I don't look like him on the right, and my friend doesn't look like him on the left...
  - boundlessdreamz 15y ago
    Bathroom scales cannot reliably measure body fat % from what I know. They try to measure impedence and it is affected by many factors - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioelectrical_impedance_analysis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioelectrical_impedance_analysi... 10% is an extremely low body fat %. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage#Typical_body_fat_amounts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage#Typical_bod...

vaksel 15y ago

how do we know he did it just by following the program...and not by hiring a personal trainer and a personal chef...or by simply doing 4 hours of exercise every day? since the other co-founder is a personal trainer...I'd imagine it was a bit more hands on, than just using a website. there is a lot of financial incentive here to improve the shown results

ericmsimons 15y ago

I'm getting an error when I sign up saying that my email address isn't valid...?

cdrxndr 15y ago

First thing I noticed is that they ripped off the Apple-Command key design for their logo. Couldn't find anything about copyright/trademark on the symbol ... anyone know if it was used prior to Apple (or is in the public domain)?

chrisacky 15y ago

I really really struggle with proper eating when it comes to my workouts. I'm a vegetarian and have been all my life. But I eat so much crap. I would say that 70%~ of my diet is made up of carbs. It's really ridiculous. I also find that I usually don't have my first meal of the day until about 4-5pm. Which is usually a plain cheese sandwhich, a pizza or home cooked noodles with vegetables. Being a vegetarian and disliking cooking is a pretty tough deal! Ha. Also julian, I tried to email you from your website, but your contact form is broken, after Googling for 5 minutes to find your contact information I couldn't find anything for bodyhack. Do you have an actual email? (Finding this on your site was impossible).

Tichy 15y ago
I don't think carbs are necessarily bad. Vegetarianism was long deemed healthy (maybe still), and I don't see how low carb should be possible for vegertarians (if you have ideas, please tell me). I have a non-proven theory: perhaps humans can adapt do different diets, not only different environments. Or actually in former times the environment pretty much dictated the diets. So if humans were good at settling in diverse environments, it practically follows that they are good at adapting to different diets. So maybe not the modern 90% junk diet (sugars and white flour), but the difference between low and high carb might not be so important. Also not sure why pizza tends to be condemned so much. Sure, if you buy a pizza at a restaurant, it is probably soaked in fat and covered with cheap cheese. But if I make one at home, it tends to have a lot of vegetables on it, and the amount of cheese doesn't have to be excessive. It seems at least healthier than the average cheese sandwich.
ljf 15y ago
eat beans, I eat them pretty much every meal. also force yourself to eat within 30 minutes of waking, I used to be like you, some days only eating dinner.

vijayr 15y ago

bought a plan, out of curiosity. while I don't doubt the results, the website is quite un-friendly for beginners. 1. There is just one line, saying "if you don't know what this means, just go to bodybuilding.com and search for it". It'd take a couple of minutes to directly link the exercises to their video pages, and save a lot of time and frustration for the users. 2. As someone pointed out, quite a few minor spelling/grammatical mistakes, even on the FAQ page 3. "We will provide fitness plan that can completed at home with zero equipment." - doesn't seem like it I'm not trying to be negative or anything, just trying to make it a bit more user friendly. The website itself is very straightforward, so it would be nice if the founders can do these minor tweaks.

prsutherland 15y ago

I'm a little disappointed to find out that it is £10 a month per plan. The messaging is not clear that I am buying one plan and not just access to the website as a whole. Why would I want to keep paying £10 a month for the same plan? I'd just pay once, download it and print it out and be gone. Only reason I'd stick around is to see new plans.

dwharden 14y ago

Received a coupon code for a free month, but was immediately charged anyway. Tried to email the address that sent the coupon code, and it failed. Tried to use the contact form on the site, and it failed (it says I need to fill out the word in the image, but there's no CAPTCHA on the page). Not a great first impression.