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Googler, opinions are my own. One thing of note is that these slides looked old (dated). The "Google" logo on the slides is pre Sept 2015 (https://www.theverg

by kyrra 3y ago

Googler, opinions are my own. One thing of note is that these slides looked old (dated). The "Google" logo on the slides is pre Sept 2015 (https://www.theverge.com/2015/9/1/9239769/new-google-logo-announced https://www.theverge.com/2015/9/1/9239769/new-google-logo-an...), when they moved to the new typeface. Internal marketing moved pretty quickly to update all slide templates to use the new logo, so that tells me this slide deck is likely at least 8 years old. Meaning, the information on these slides may not apply anymore. The value-proposition for Chrome may have changed since then, especially with Chromebooks being in the mix.

koolba 3y ago
> Meaning, the information on these slides may not apply anymore. The value-proposition for Chrome may have changed since then, especially with Chromebooks being in the mix. The prevalence of ad blocking has grown significantly since 2015. If anything, these slides apply even more than they did when first created. The specifics might have changed but the situations they’re trying to address to preserve and maximize the revenue model for search have only expanded.
esprehn 3y ago
The first slide says January 2008: https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-10/417378.pdf https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-10/417378.pdf
jacquesm 3y ago
Yes, true it probably got a lot worse since than, thanks for pointing that out.
choppaface 3y ago
> the information on these slides may not apply anymore. The slides provide evidence for places auction rigging can happen, and that’s exactly what Google did recently with Jedi Blue https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Blue https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Blue > The value-proposition for Chrome may have changed since then, especially with Chromebooks being in the mix. Pretty sure that argument is irrelevant given that Google pays over $25B per year to be the search default https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/27/23934961/google-antitrust-trial-defaults-search-deal-26-3-billion https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/27/23934961/google-antitrus...

by kyrra 3y ago

koolba 3y ago

> Meaning, the information on these slides may not apply anymore. The value-proposition for Chrome may have changed since then, especially with Chromebooks being in the mix. The prevalence of ad blocking has grown significantly since 2015. If anything, these slides apply even more than they did when first created. The specifics might have changed but the situations they’re trying to address to preserve and maximize the revenue model for search have only expanded.

esprehn 3y ago

The first slide says January 2008: https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-10/417378.pdf https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-10/417378.pdf

jacquesm 3y ago

Yes, true it probably got a lot worse since than, thanks for pointing that out.

choppaface 3y ago

> the information on these slides may not apply anymore. The slides provide evidence for places auction rigging can happen, and that’s exactly what Google did recently with Jedi Blue https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Blue https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Blue > The value-proposition for Chrome may have changed since then, especially with Chromebooks being in the mix. Pretty sure that argument is irrelevant given that Google pays over $25B per year to be the search default https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/27/23934961/google-antitrust-trial-defaults-search-deal-26-3-billion https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/27/23934961/google-antitrus...