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> Which seems perfectly reasonable for a new game. Right, I'm okay with that. But "being a visual marvel even on PS5 era GPU" sounds not at all the same as "be

> Which seems perfectly reasonable for a new game. Right, I'm okay with that. But "being a visual marvel even on PS5 era GPU" sounds not at all the same as "being a visual marvel even on older GPU" to me. I do consider RTX20xx modern GPU, even if they are not the highest range for sure.

Retric 3y ago
It also runs and looks good on a GTX 1650 with low settings which was a 150$ card from 3 years ago. Which I think is more their point.
- paulmd 3y ago
  almost 5 years actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_16_series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_proces... And to a sibling comment: RX 480 is not 6 years old but actually coming up on 8 years here. Yes, these GPUs are quite old now. People don't want to hear it but at some point graphics technology is going to have to move forward from Pascal and Polaris. You can't stay behind on legacy technology forever. AMD knows this very well themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLea0QUW1k&t=176 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLea0QUW1k&t=176 As Roy says: Don't be cynical, developers are not going to just stop working. But they're not going to be bound to supporting legacy pathways and obsolete APIs/feature-standards forever either. This is literally the "when developers commit from the ground-up" that AMD was referring to. Remember, DX12U is just DX 12.2, it would have been a full api release in the past, and that eventually does come along with the old stuff eventually falling out of support. It was a pretty shortsighted move to downplay all these features for all these years, and eventually sooner or later some big titles are going to utilize them to an extent that makes a legacy fallback impossible or un-performant. Only difference is that nvidia was the first one on the draw with this DX feature set. GN made the case for the importance of early testing and early adoption of these featuresets, back in 2016. Then they lost their mind over Turing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qiQH29KAXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qiQH29KAXg
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Retric 3y ago

It also runs and looks good on a GTX 1650 with low settings which was a 150$ card from 3 years ago. Which I think is more their point.

paulmd 3y ago
almost 5 years actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_16_series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_proces... And to a sibling comment: RX 480 is not 6 years old but actually coming up on 8 years here. Yes, these GPUs are quite old now. People don't want to hear it but at some point graphics technology is going to have to move forward from Pascal and Polaris. You can't stay behind on legacy technology forever. AMD knows this very well themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLea0QUW1k&t=176 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLea0QUW1k&t=176 As Roy says: Don't be cynical, developers are not going to just stop working. But they're not going to be bound to supporting legacy pathways and obsolete APIs/feature-standards forever either. This is literally the "when developers commit from the ground-up" that AMD was referring to. Remember, DX12U is just DX 12.2, it would have been a full api release in the past, and that eventually does come along with the old stuff eventually falling out of support. It was a pretty shortsighted move to downplay all these features for all these years, and eventually sooner or later some big titles are going to utilize them to an extent that makes a legacy fallback impossible or un-performant. Only difference is that nvidia was the first one on the draw with this DX feature set. GN made the case for the importance of early testing and early adoption of these featuresets, back in 2016. Then they lost their mind over Turing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qiQH29KAXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qiQH29KAXg

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