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Steve Jobs brain washed them into thinking thin phones are better. They are lost. Wait for them to die out then we can rebuild modular, repairable, upgradable,

Steve Jobs brain washed them into thinking thin phones are better. They are lost. Wait for them to die out then we can rebuild modular, repairable, upgradable, sustainable, and affordable technology. Any rational company would have standardized the parts inside a phone like IBM did with the IBM PC.

thefounder 3y ago
The big brick phones went out of fashion before the iphone. Apple resurrected the big and thick phones. I remember I didn't get the first iphone models due their size.
- Tanoc 3y ago
  No they didn't. The most popular form factor for phones before the iPhone was the thick flipphone, because it was easier to hold and use in one hand. Second most popular right before the iPhone's introduction was likely the slide QWERTY layout, such as the Motorola Sidekick or Karma. It kept the smaller form factor of the candybar phone with the capabilities and keyboard of an early smartphone like the Blackberry Curve. Those were both "big brick" phone form factors that survived until around 2013. The iPhone popularized the broad slate form factor, which was quickly adopted by pretty much everyone wanting to field an Android phone from then on.
  - thefounder 3y ago
    Flip phones were not big brick phones. Qwerty phones were a niche.
jedrek 3y ago
> Any rational company would have standardized the parts inside a phone like IBM did with the IBM PC. Any company that is run by people who're capable of reading and understanding history books would probably not do that. IBM released the PC in 1981 and effectively left the "standardized component" PC market in 2001, when they shut down the Aptiva line. That's a 20 year run, which saw IBM try to move away from Intel and into their own RISC processors for the last 5 years. And its height, IBM was shipping 750,000 computers a year. In 2022, Apple sold that many iPhones every day. IBM created a market by allowing other companies to make PC clones, but that pushed margins to unworkable levels and effectively forced them out of the market.
- RecycledEle 3y ago
  > IBM was shipping 750,000 computers a year. In 2022, Apple sold that many iPhones every day. You are comparing 1983 to 2022 in an industry that experience exponential growth over that time.

thefounder 3y ago

The big brick phones went out of fashion before the iphone. Apple resurrected the big and thick phones. I remember I didn't get the first iphone models due their size.

Tanoc 3y ago
No they didn't. The most popular form factor for phones before the iPhone was the thick flipphone, because it was easier to hold and use in one hand. Second most popular right before the iPhone's introduction was likely the slide QWERTY layout, such as the Motorola Sidekick or Karma. It kept the smaller form factor of the candybar phone with the capabilities and keyboard of an early smartphone like the Blackberry Curve. Those were both "big brick" phone form factors that survived until around 2013. The iPhone popularized the broad slate form factor, which was quickly adopted by pretty much everyone wanting to field an Android phone from then on.
- thefounder 3y ago
  Flip phones were not big brick phones. Qwerty phones were a niche.

jedrek 3y ago

> Any rational company would have standardized the parts inside a phone like IBM did with the IBM PC. Any company that is run by people who're capable of reading and understanding history books would probably not do that. IBM released the PC in 1981 and effectively left the "standardized component" PC market in 2001, when they shut down the Aptiva line. That's a 20 year run, which saw IBM try to move away from Intel and into their own RISC processors for the last 5 years. And its height, IBM was shipping 750,000 computers a year. In 2022, Apple sold that many iPhones every day. IBM created a market by allowing other companies to make PC clones, but that pushed margins to unworkable levels and effectively forced them out of the market.

RecycledEle 3y ago
> IBM was shipping 750,000 computers a year. In 2022, Apple sold that many iPhones every day. You are comparing 1983 to 2022 in an industry that experience exponential growth over that time.