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What I have learnt is that the majority of people are not interesting enough to keep quiet just to be "allowed" to be around them. The number of people I respe

by lynx23 3y ago

What I have learnt is that the majority of people are not interesting enough to keep quiet just to be "allowed" to be around them. The number of people I respect and am interested in listening to their opinion goes down from year to year, with experience. Most people are jerks that deserve to stay in their bubble with their "friends".

nonrandomstring 3y ago
In a neighbouring thread we're talking about "conviviality" (Ivan Illich's "Tools for..." It's an odd word. What I found is that almost every random bore at the pub has a wealth of interesting stuff to say. You just have to tease it out. You have to work at conversations. It's a bit of a lost art imho. The first step is always to get the topic off the mainstream (stop exchanging platitudes) by showing an interest in some marginal personal remark. Doesn't work for everyone of course. And some people just don't want to. Living in Finland I learned the art of just being quiet around others and that "interesting company" can be hanging out without words, say just appreciating a walk together.
- boringg 3y ago
  So I'm with in theory. People are interesting for the most part. However the amount of work to reward you are describing is tantamount to pulling up hedgerows in zelda for coins. Your not likely to find anything amazing but maybe once in awhile interesting. Again probably depends on the establishment
  - hfgjbcgjbvg 3y ago
    Nah if you’re good at it. It can be amazing every time. But like anything, it feels like a lot of work before you get good at it.
    - boringg 3y ago
      Amazing every time? Wouldn't it get redundant?
      - hfgjbcgjbvg 3y ago
        No because every interaction is different. And yes if that’s your mindset, every time.
barrysteve 3y ago
It is increasingly common for people to cut out topics their tribe doesn't like. Conversations (on the surface level) have become narrow. It's the pursuit to reveal a very specific meaning, and the connections around it. It won't go anywhere.. people will want freedom from it.

by lynx23 3y ago

nonrandomstring 3y ago

In a neighbouring thread we're talking about "conviviality" (Ivan Illich's "Tools for..." It's an odd word. What I found is that almost every random bore at the pub has a wealth of interesting stuff to say. You just have to tease it out. You have to work at conversations. It's a bit of a lost art imho. The first step is always to get the topic off the mainstream (stop exchanging platitudes) by showing an interest in some marginal personal remark. Doesn't work for everyone of course. And some people just don't want to. Living in Finland I learned the art of just being quiet around others and that "interesting company" can be hanging out without words, say just appreciating a walk together.

boringg 3y ago
So I'm with in theory. People are interesting for the most part. However the amount of work to reward you are describing is tantamount to pulling up hedgerows in zelda for coins. Your not likely to find anything amazing but maybe once in awhile interesting. Again probably depends on the establishment
- hfgjbcgjbvg 3y ago
  Nah if you’re good at it. It can be amazing every time. But like anything, it feels like a lot of work before you get good at it.
  - boringg 3y ago
    Amazing every time? Wouldn't it get redundant?
    - hfgjbcgjbvg 3y ago
      No because every interaction is different. And yes if that’s your mindset, every time.

barrysteve 3y ago

It is increasingly common for people to cut out topics their tribe doesn't like. Conversations (on the surface level) have become narrow. It's the pursuit to reveal a very specific meaning, and the connections around it. It won't go anywhere.. people will want freedom from it.