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Seems that Elon has fixed the problem. One of your links is months old, the other years old.

by natch 3y ago

Apocryphon 3y ago
If you say so. https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status/1715823316991189078 https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status/1715823316991189078 (thread) https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/1716940900260258199 https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/1716940900260258199 (replies) Investigating this took one simple search for “t-shirt bots.”
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Can you link a few examples where: "If you tweet something along the lines of "I'd buy a tshirt with that image on it" you'll immediately get ten bots offering to sell you that shirt from a print-on-demand site."? There should be thousands upon thousands of examples, a single search away, to choose from right?
  - Apocryphon 3y ago
    That is what the second link is. Most of those replies are fake, you can tell because there are bots working in call-and-answer pairs, with one stating their admiration for a shirt design and the second one providing a storefront that has miraculously spontaneously generated to fit that product demand. Examples from query "need this shirt:" https://twitter.com/kelsi_bree/status/1718103609832100137 https://twitter.com/kelsi_bree/status/1718103609832100137 https://twitter.com/pipikinkin/status/1718207087170498586 https://twitter.com/pipikinkin/status/1718207087170498586 https://twitter.com/fxgotron69/status/1717662530242478481 https://twitter.com/fxgotron69/status/1717662530242478481 https://twitter.com/nottheworse1/status/1718356453805658458 https://twitter.com/nottheworse1/status/1718356453805658458 https://twitter.com/iamjannana/status/1716620531531657419 https://twitter.com/iamjannana/status/1716620531531657419
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      For the second link in your previous comment, only 4 accounts posted the same link 5 times total, and only one of the accounts looks suspicious enough to be a bot, the others have join dates of 2011, 2012, etc., and not too suspicious posting histories. Did you actually take a close look? If you did, why did you pick one of the least convincing examples?
      - Apocryphon 3y ago
        Your analysis is wrong. @livpost_br, @cosasdevida_13, @humseila, and @Steven_Mr9 are all bots. Early reg dates and retweeting of the content of others does not prove an account is not a bot. If you actually skim those accounts' replies more carefully, you will see the spamming of t-shirt links. I concede that may not have been the best example. Did you actually read my comment in full? If you did, why did you pick one of the least convincing examples?
        MichaelZuo 3y ago
        > Your analysis is wrong. @livpost_br, @cosasdevida_13, @humseila, and @Steven_Mr9 are all bots. Can you link the proof or analysis behind this claim?
        Apocryphon 3y ago
        https://twitter.com/livpost_br/with_replies https://twitter.com/livpost_br/with_replies Look at all of the non sequitur shirt tweets. https://twitter.com/cosasdevida_13/with_replies https://twitter.com/cosasdevida_13/with_replies Same here- same domains even (viralstyle.com and vrlstyl.com) https://twitter.com/humseila/with_replies https://twitter.com/humseila/with_replies Same domains, links to a domain that has been taken down due to TOS violations (gystoore.shop) https://twitter.com/Steven_Mr9/with_replies https://twitter.com/Steven_Mr9/with_replies Same spamming of links with vrlstyl.com domain, non-link tweets with fragmentary "bot speak." Just skim these feeds and you can get a general feel.
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- natch 3y ago
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- natch 3y ago
  Did you even try clicking on the account in the first post? Account suspended. I don’t see how you think this is wrong.
  - Apocryphon 3y ago
    That bot shouldn't have even gotten as far as to spam all of those tweets in the first place. You'd think they would have created a more bot-proof account signup process. Not to mention, that thread was made on 10/21, there's no telling how many days it took for it to be suspended after someone had to make a thread about it.
    - natch 3y ago
      As the other poster pointed out, the signup was years ago for some of them so it’s unfair to blame current management for that. I would encourage you to report any bots you notice though. And as Elon said they will make mistakes. As we all know bots versus humans is an eternal arms race, not much new here. > You'd think they would have created a more bot-proof account signup process So you’re concerned about the signup process at sign up time. Sorry to edit but I wasn’t clear before and can’t reply. I just don’t see these. I think they are buried deep in threads that aren’t surfaced. Only by searching specifically can you find them. That’s pretty much what Elon planned: freedom of speech, not freedom of reach. Also it seems reasonable to speculate that these particular bots are not prioritized to the extent that they are directly addressing specific requests on essentially (often) leaf nodes of conversations.
      - Apocryphon 3y ago
        Reg date proves nothing. Accounts can be shared, sold, or hacked. > As we all know bots versus humans is an eternal arms race, not much new here. Calls into question claims that there have been substantiative gains made in that arms race, though- which is the point of this sub-thread in the first place!
        natch 3y ago

Seems that Elon has fixed the problem. One of your links is months old, the other years old.

by natch 3y ago

Seems that Elon has fixed the problem. One of your links is months old, the other years old.

If you say so. https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status/1715823316991189078 https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status/1715823316991189078 (thread) https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/1716940900260258199 https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/1716940900260258199 (replies) Investigating this took one simple search for “t-shirt bots.”

MichaelZuo 3y ago
Can you link a few examples where: "If you tweet something along the lines of "I'd buy a tshirt with that image on it" you'll immediately get ten bots offering to sell you that shirt from a print-on-demand site."? There should be thousands upon thousands of examples, a single search away, to choose from right?
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  That is what the second link is. Most of those replies are fake, you can tell because there are bots working in call-and-answer pairs, with one stating their admiration for a shirt design and the second one providing a storefront that has miraculously spontaneously generated to fit that product demand. Examples from query "need this shirt:" https://twitter.com/kelsi_bree/status/1718103609832100137 https://twitter.com/kelsi_bree/status/1718103609832100137 https://twitter.com/pipikinkin/status/1718207087170498586 https://twitter.com/pipikinkin/status/1718207087170498586 https://twitter.com/fxgotron69/status/1717662530242478481 https://twitter.com/fxgotron69/status/1717662530242478481 https://twitter.com/nottheworse1/status/1718356453805658458 https://twitter.com/nottheworse1/status/1718356453805658458 https://twitter.com/iamjannana/status/1716620531531657419 https://twitter.com/iamjannana/status/1716620531531657419
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    For the second link in your previous comment, only 4 accounts posted the same link 5 times total, and only one of the accounts looks suspicious enough to be a bot, the others have join dates of 2011, 2012, etc., and not too suspicious posting histories. Did you actually take a close look? If you did, why did you pick one of the least convincing examples?
    - Apocryphon 3y ago
      Your analysis is wrong. @livpost_br, @cosasdevida_13, @humseila, and @Steven_Mr9 are all bots. Early reg dates and retweeting of the content of others does not prove an account is not a bot. If you actually skim those accounts' replies more carefully, you will see the spamming of t-shirt links. I concede that may not have been the best example. Did you actually read my comment in full? If you did, why did you pick one of the least convincing examples?
      - MichaelZuo 3y ago
        > Your analysis is wrong. @livpost_br, @cosasdevida_13, @humseila, and @Steven_Mr9 are all bots. Can you link the proof or analysis behind this claim?
        Apocryphon 3y ago
        https://twitter.com/livpost_br/with_replies https://twitter.com/livpost_br/with_replies Look at all of the non sequitur shirt tweets. https://twitter.com/cosasdevida_13/with_replies https://twitter.com/cosasdevida_13/with_replies Same here- same domains even (viralstyle.com and vrlstyl.com) https://twitter.com/humseila/with_replies https://twitter.com/humseila/with_replies Same domains, links to a domain that has been taken down due to TOS violations (gystoore.shop) https://twitter.com/Steven_Mr9/with_replies https://twitter.com/Steven_Mr9/with_replies Same spamming of links with vrlstyl.com domain, non-link tweets with fragmentary "bot speak." Just skim these feeds and you can get a general feel.
      - deleted 3y ago
natch 3y ago
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natch 3y ago
Did you even try clicking on the account in the first post? Account suspended. I don’t see how you think this is wrong.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  That bot shouldn't have even gotten as far as to spam all of those tweets in the first place. You'd think they would have created a more bot-proof account signup process. Not to mention, that thread was made on 10/21, there's no telling how many days it took for it to be suspended after someone had to make a thread about it.
  - natch 3y ago
    As the other poster pointed out, the signup was years ago for some of them so it’s unfair to blame current management for that. I would encourage you to report any bots you notice though. And as Elon said they will make mistakes. As we all know bots versus humans is an eternal arms race, not much new here. > You'd think they would have created a more bot-proof account signup process So you’re concerned about the signup process at sign up time. Sorry to edit but I wasn’t clear before and can’t reply. I just don’t see these. I think they are buried deep in threads that aren’t surfaced. Only by searching specifically can you find them. That’s pretty much what Elon planned: freedom of speech, not freedom of reach. Also it seems reasonable to speculate that these particular bots are not prioritized to the extent that they are directly addressing specific requests on essentially (often) leaf nodes of conversations.
    - Apocryphon 3y ago
      Reg date proves nothing. Accounts can be shared, sold, or hacked. > As we all know bots versus humans is an eternal arms race, not much new here. Calls into question claims that there have been substantiative gains made in that arms race, though- which is the point of this sub-thread in the first place!
      - natch 3y ago