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Seeing it emulated shows you how amazing the art direction is - it scales extremely well and it's indisputable how beautiful it looks. One the hugest misses of

Seeing it emulated shows you how amazing the art direction is - it scales extremely well and it's indisputable how beautiful it looks. One the hugest misses of Nintendo to be honest. The art styles they develop are designed to scale down to their hardware, but they also scale way up and they never provide you an official way to take advantage, even on future hardware. The art team is being done a bit dirty in this respect.

xnx 3y ago
Tears of the Kingdom came so late in the lifecycle of the Switch and the next Zelda is so far off, that I wonder if Nintendo will do some type of light re-release on Switch 2 (or whatever it is called). I read that the did a closed-door demo of Tears of the Kingdom running on Switch 2 hardware.
- zirgs 3y ago
  They most likely will. The same happened with the previous zelda game.
bzzzt 3y ago
Since there is no 'future hardware' announced yet how can you state Nintendo will never provide you with an official way to take advantage of it? Seems Nintendo regularly re-releases games on new consoles, often with graphical improvements. FI, you can play Zelda Skyward Sword in HD on the Switch.
- _cenw 3y ago
  Never is a long time, but it's not likely to be the next iteration (which was demoed in private at Gamescom). Mostly because the Switch graphics API is very hard coupled to the specific Tegra chips they use.
  - bzzzt 3y ago
    You mean you don't get an upgraded version for free when buying a new console. While I'd like that Nintendo is not big on 'for free' ;)
    - _cenw 3y ago
      No, I mean that there wouldn't be backwards compatibility, and Nintendo usually doesn't re-release games immediately (with the notable exception of Mario Kart 8 and some simultaneous releases like Twilight Princess and Breath of the Wild).
- zirgs 3y ago
  Most games are still stuck on their older consoles. Even well known games like Super Mario Galaxy 1/2 and Xenoblade Chronicles X. They port only their most popular stuff. This is why piracy is necessary in the long term. Platform holders don't care about game preservation.
  - bzzzt 3y ago
    Super Mario Galaxy 1 was part of the 'Mario 3D All stars' pack for Switch. It's hard to take a case for illegal copying serious if you start with incorrect examples. I'm convinced that as long as people want those games they will be made available eventually, but probably not on the timeline you want. I think some kind of 'continued availability' provision in copyright law would be more realistic than an appeal to resort to piracy.
    - zirgs 3y ago
      > Super Mario Galaxy 1 was part of the 'Mario 3D All stars' pack for Switch. It was on sale for a limited time and got delisted apparently. Better than nothing, I guess - but if you missed it - then it might not even exist. My point still stands - pirated copies of those games are available 24/7. As GabeN said - piracy is a service problem and Nintendo fails to provide a better service.
      - bzzzt 3y ago
        Still doesn't give you any right. Lobby your politicians if you want better copyright laws. Being a pirate will only strengthen the case for those who believe strong copyright enforcement is necessary.
        rockskon 3y ago
        So your argument is that if pirates don't stop it empowers people who hate pirates? If pirates stop, there's no alternatives to get a lot of media in many cases. There is zero incentive to stop because you can't get worse than nothing. Nothing being what is available in many cases for older media. You want to embolden your argument that pirates should stop? Then don't take away all legal means of getting something. I have zero sympathy for copyright holders who refuse to make an IP available anymore yet litigate after those who do.
maccard 3y ago
> it scales extremely well and it's indisputable how beautiful it looks. I disagree - I had a google and found [0]. This is emulated, at 4k with raytracing. It's a good decade behind what we're seeing come out these days IMO. It's dated, suffers from the hallmarks of not-quite-HDR (that lovely shiny surface that we all learned to love during the late 360/PS3 days). [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA7BAbMQU3c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA7BAbMQU3c

xnx 3y ago

Tears of the Kingdom came so late in the lifecycle of the Switch and the next Zelda is so far off, that I wonder if Nintendo will do some type of light re-release on Switch 2 (or whatever it is called). I read that the did a closed-door demo of Tears of the Kingdom running on Switch 2 hardware.

zirgs 3y ago
They most likely will. The same happened with the previous zelda game.

bzzzt 3y ago

Since there is no 'future hardware' announced yet how can you state Nintendo will never provide you with an official way to take advantage of it? Seems Nintendo regularly re-releases games on new consoles, often with graphical improvements. FI, you can play Zelda Skyward Sword in HD on the Switch.

_cenw 3y ago
Never is a long time, but it's not likely to be the next iteration (which was demoed in private at Gamescom). Mostly because the Switch graphics API is very hard coupled to the specific Tegra chips they use.
- bzzzt 3y ago
  You mean you don't get an upgraded version for free when buying a new console. While I'd like that Nintendo is not big on 'for free' ;)
  - _cenw 3y ago
    No, I mean that there wouldn't be backwards compatibility, and Nintendo usually doesn't re-release games immediately (with the notable exception of Mario Kart 8 and some simultaneous releases like Twilight Princess and Breath of the Wild).
zirgs 3y ago
Most games are still stuck on their older consoles. Even well known games like Super Mario Galaxy 1/2 and Xenoblade Chronicles X. They port only their most popular stuff. This is why piracy is necessary in the long term. Platform holders don't care about game preservation.
- bzzzt 3y ago
  Super Mario Galaxy 1 was part of the 'Mario 3D All stars' pack for Switch. It's hard to take a case for illegal copying serious if you start with incorrect examples. I'm convinced that as long as people want those games they will be made available eventually, but probably not on the timeline you want. I think some kind of 'continued availability' provision in copyright law would be more realistic than an appeal to resort to piracy.
  - zirgs 3y ago
    > Super Mario Galaxy 1 was part of the 'Mario 3D All stars' pack for Switch. It was on sale for a limited time and got delisted apparently. Better than nothing, I guess - but if you missed it - then it might not even exist. My point still stands - pirated copies of those games are available 24/7. As GabeN said - piracy is a service problem and Nintendo fails to provide a better service.
    - bzzzt 3y ago
      Still doesn't give you any right. Lobby your politicians if you want better copyright laws. Being a pirate will only strengthen the case for those who believe strong copyright enforcement is necessary.
      - rockskon 3y ago
        So your argument is that if pirates don't stop it empowers people who hate pirates? If pirates stop, there's no alternatives to get a lot of media in many cases. There is zero incentive to stop because you can't get worse than nothing. Nothing being what is available in many cases for older media. You want to embolden your argument that pirates should stop? Then don't take away all legal means of getting something. I have zero sympathy for copyright holders who refuse to make an IP available anymore yet litigate after those who do.

maccard 3y ago

> it scales extremely well and it's indisputable how beautiful it looks. I disagree - I had a google and found [0]. This is emulated, at 4k with raytracing. It's a good decade behind what we're seeing come out these days IMO. It's dated, suffers from the hallmarks of not-quite-HDR (that lovely shiny surface that we all learned to love during the late 360/PS3 days). [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA7BAbMQU3c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA7BAbMQU3c