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P.S. I missed this part: > The membership is as easy as joining a local gym. Your local gyms must be very different from any I've ever seen. Here's how the So

by T-A 3y ago

P.S. I missed this part: > The membership is as easy as joining a local gym. Your local gyms must be very different from any I've ever seen. Here's how the South Chine Morning Post described the process in 2021 [1]: Joining the party is usually an arduous process that can take two to three years. Potential members must apply to their local party organisations, initiating a multi-year process with more than 20 steps to determine their qualification, including submitting a formal application, meeting with the local party organisers and attending party study sessions. Candidates also need a party member to act as a guide and mentor, who they often find through party organisations at their work and schools. After about a year of study, applicants need to pass written tests. They must also pass background checks – those with criminal records or whose family members have such records may fail these. If they pass all of these steps, applicants still have to go through a probation period of at least a year before the party branch decides whether to admit them. Which makes sense. Why else would only 0.7% of all Chinese be members? [1] https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3134071/why-do-so-many-people-join-communist-party-china https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3134071/why...

dumb1224 3y ago
No need to nitpick, of course I know what's the procedure to join the party. >Potential members must apply to their local party organisations, initiating a multi-year process with more than 20 steps All of these happen in your formal education (middle school to college, include junior club as well if you want to count in elementary school) anyway. You won't miss any of that anyway unless you are in a rural area with little resources. Well it's still quite extraordinary to see people on HN to remind my how the process is, as if my life in China was a faded dream. If HN always prefer internet material than say personal experience then here are the two major stages: https://tw.lzre.edu.cn/info/1019/1139.htm https://tw.lzre.edu.cn/info/1019/1139.htm http://www.yydj.gov.cn/11270/11273/content_428390.html http://www.yydj.gov.cn/11270/11273/content_428390.html I exaggerated a bit but my point was since all of these are integral to your school journey you just need to decide to join or not.
- T-A 3y ago
  > Well it's still quite extraordinary to see people on HN to remind my how the process is, as if my life in China was a faded dream. No, you get "reminded" because you seem to "forget" a lot when you write about conditions in China. If somebody with little knowledge of China sees a Chinese person claiming that joining the party is just like joining a local gym, then shockingly, that person may actually believe it. I know, incredible, right?
  - dumb1224 3y ago
    Well I don't know, I hope people on HN are intellegent enough and their sceptical nature should prevent them from doing exactly that. Still I think it's nitpicking to attack on an analogy (which is a bit 'straw man-ish') which I admit is exaggerated. >No, you get "reminded" because you seem to "forget" a lot when you write about conditions in China. This is a bit strange. Are you accusing me lying about what I experienced? I repeatedly said that what I want to add is my personal experience. What you feel about the society is important. People feel they can't afford housing even when they have good income on paper. One can live in China without experiencing any of problems you mentioned. Another person might differ. What exactly did I 'forget' in my own life?

by T-A 3y ago

dumb1224 3y ago

No need to nitpick, of course I know what's the procedure to join the party. >Potential members must apply to their local party organisations, initiating a multi-year process with more than 20 steps All of these happen in your formal education (middle school to college, include junior club as well if you want to count in elementary school) anyway. You won't miss any of that anyway unless you are in a rural area with little resources. Well it's still quite extraordinary to see people on HN to remind my how the process is, as if my life in China was a faded dream. If HN always prefer internet material than say personal experience then here are the two major stages: https://tw.lzre.edu.cn/info/1019/1139.htm https://tw.lzre.edu.cn/info/1019/1139.htm http://www.yydj.gov.cn/11270/11273/content_428390.html http://www.yydj.gov.cn/11270/11273/content_428390.html I exaggerated a bit but my point was since all of these are integral to your school journey you just need to decide to join or not.

T-A 3y ago
> Well it's still quite extraordinary to see people on HN to remind my how the process is, as if my life in China was a faded dream. No, you get "reminded" because you seem to "forget" a lot when you write about conditions in China. If somebody with little knowledge of China sees a Chinese person claiming that joining the party is just like joining a local gym, then shockingly, that person may actually believe it. I know, incredible, right?
- dumb1224 3y ago
  Well I don't know, I hope people on HN are intellegent enough and their sceptical nature should prevent them from doing exactly that. Still I think it's nitpicking to attack on an analogy (which is a bit 'straw man-ish') which I admit is exaggerated. >No, you get "reminded" because you seem to "forget" a lot when you write about conditions in China. This is a bit strange. Are you accusing me lying about what I experienced? I repeatedly said that what I want to add is my personal experience. What you feel about the society is important. People feel they can't afford housing even when they have good income on paper. One can live in China without experiencing any of problems you mentioned. Another person might differ. What exactly did I 'forget' in my own life?