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Sometimes, even if someone is sentenced to life in prison they are let out and kill again. Also, putting remorseless killers in prison also represents a threat

Sometimes, even if someone is sentenced to life in prison they are let out and kill again. Also, putting remorseless killers in prison also represents a threat to other prisoners. We haven't figured out how to prevent that yet. Should capital punishment be more strictly controlled with a massively high barrier to use, yes, but there are solid reasons to use it.

upon_drumhead 3y ago
some crime statutes include "without parole" as a sentencing guideline. The legislature could fix the 'released and kill again' issue without resorting to capital punishment. As for prisons, solitary is an option, however one could argue that it's even more inhumane then capital punishment.
- paleotrope 3y ago
  That doesn't preclude a change in the law at some future point. Or some sort of massive amnesty that we see sometimes in times of political upheaval. The death penalty is society decisively deciding that this person must never be allowed to kill or harm anyone else again. The prison one is one that never gets enough focus, mainly because we have an attitude of writing off people that go to jail and that whatever happens to them there a rough form of justice. But then it's not really great to have people sentenced to life in prison without a chance of parole now performing this kind of "justice" to other people that might have a chance to reform and go back into society. Just as a single example, Freddy Geas was a mafia hitman who was sentenced to life in prison. He killed Whitey Bulger, another murderer. Sure, Whitey wasn't innocent, but did he deserve to be beat to death by another murderer under state care?
foogazi 3y ago
> Sometimes, even if someone is sentenced to life in prison they are let out and kill again. Life without parole exists > Also, putting remorseless killers in prison also represents a threat to other prisoners. We haven't figured out how to prevent that yet. Solitary confinement exists > Should capital punishment be more strictly controlled with a massively high barrier to use, yes, but there are solid reasons to use it. What are the solid reasons to kill somebody in prison ?
- Two4 3y ago
  Solitary confinement is a torture, and should never be used, even for the most reprehensible of people. You may mean that they be physically sequestered from other people if they're dangerous, which death row inmates often are, but no human deserves to be isolated from others for anything more than a short period.

upon_drumhead 3y ago

some crime statutes include "without parole" as a sentencing guideline. The legislature could fix the 'released and kill again' issue without resorting to capital punishment. As for prisons, solitary is an option, however one could argue that it's even more inhumane then capital punishment.

paleotrope 3y ago
That doesn't preclude a change in the law at some future point. Or some sort of massive amnesty that we see sometimes in times of political upheaval. The death penalty is society decisively deciding that this person must never be allowed to kill or harm anyone else again. The prison one is one that never gets enough focus, mainly because we have an attitude of writing off people that go to jail and that whatever happens to them there a rough form of justice. But then it's not really great to have people sentenced to life in prison without a chance of parole now performing this kind of "justice" to other people that might have a chance to reform and go back into society. Just as a single example, Freddy Geas was a mafia hitman who was sentenced to life in prison. He killed Whitey Bulger, another murderer. Sure, Whitey wasn't innocent, but did he deserve to be beat to death by another murderer under state care?

foogazi 3y ago

> Sometimes, even if someone is sentenced to life in prison they are let out and kill again. Life without parole exists > Also, putting remorseless killers in prison also represents a threat to other prisoners. We haven't figured out how to prevent that yet. Solitary confinement exists > Should capital punishment be more strictly controlled with a massively high barrier to use, yes, but there are solid reasons to use it. What are the solid reasons to kill somebody in prison ?

Two4 3y ago
Solitary confinement is a torture, and should never be used, even for the most reprehensible of people. You may mean that they be physically sequestered from other people if they're dangerous, which death row inmates often are, but no human deserves to be isolated from others for anything more than a short period.