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But you can pay for YouTube Premium, they already have an alternative to an ad supported business model.

by tapoxi 3y ago

microtonal 3y ago
I have YouTube Premium. But I worry that once a substantial portion of the user base goes Premium, they'll also start to slip in ads. I think the ad business has made everyone who cares paranoid.
- FullstakBlogger 3y ago
  This is such a huge downside with subscription services in general. The product itself can change right under your nose and there's nothing you can do about it but cancel. First I was paying to filter out content, now I'm paying for access? That's a totally different thing that I didn't agree to. If you frame it in a different context it sounds ridiculous. "Actually we're getting out of the video streaming business and just mailing you postcards that we think look neat. Still charging you the same rate every month, though."
- notacoward 3y ago
  There's plenty of precedent for this. Amazon has said they'll be introducing ads on Prime Video, where everyone has already paid for the service. I've seen ads on other already-paid-for services too. The simple fact is that business people will always want more ads everywhere, no matter how much it degrades the customer experience, because extra revenue is easier to measure than customer disgust. In their personal lives they probably hate ads as much as we do, but a fatter paycheck can buy a lot of hypocrisy.
  - charcircuit 3y ago
    Prime Video will still have an ad free tier. Having a cheaper tier that is subsidized with ads allows for more people to be able to afford it.
    - lazycouchpotato 3y ago
      This isn't like Netflix where a cheaper, inferior plan was introduced. They're taking the current ad-free service introducing ads to it. You're going to have to pay an additional $3/mo for no ads along with your existing $15/mo (Prime), $139/yr (Prime) or $8.99 (Prime Video only) plans. This doesn't look like subsidizing to me. To me it looks more like "pay us more because we can do whatever we want". https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/entertainment/prime-video-update-announces-limited-ads https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/entertainment/prime-video-u...
dantyti 3y ago
No, Google still is an ad company. I do not want my identity and payment info tied to my watch history. I do not trust Google to not use my data for monetization outside of youtube (e.g., selling my 'anonymized' user persona to data aggregators). Hence, using a google account to get youtube premium is not an option.

But you can pay for YouTube Premium, they already have an alternative to an ad supported business model.

by tapoxi 3y ago

But you can pay for YouTube Premium, they already have an alternative to an ad supported business model.

I have YouTube Premium. But I worry that once a substantial portion of the user base goes Premium, they'll also start to slip in ads. I think the ad business has made everyone who cares paranoid.

FullstakBlogger 3y ago
This is such a huge downside with subscription services in general. The product itself can change right under your nose and there's nothing you can do about it but cancel. First I was paying to filter out content, now I'm paying for access? That's a totally different thing that I didn't agree to. If you frame it in a different context it sounds ridiculous. "Actually we're getting out of the video streaming business and just mailing you postcards that we think look neat. Still charging you the same rate every month, though."
notacoward 3y ago
There's plenty of precedent for this. Amazon has said they'll be introducing ads on Prime Video, where everyone has already paid for the service. I've seen ads on other already-paid-for services too. The simple fact is that business people will always want more ads everywhere, no matter how much it degrades the customer experience, because extra revenue is easier to measure than customer disgust. In their personal lives they probably hate ads as much as we do, but a fatter paycheck can buy a lot of hypocrisy.
- charcircuit 3y ago
  Prime Video will still have an ad free tier. Having a cheaper tier that is subsidized with ads allows for more people to be able to afford it.
  - lazycouchpotato 3y ago
    This isn't like Netflix where a cheaper, inferior plan was introduced. They're taking the current ad-free service introducing ads to it. You're going to have to pay an additional $3/mo for no ads along with your existing $15/mo (Prime), $139/yr (Prime) or $8.99 (Prime Video only) plans. This doesn't look like subsidizing to me. To me it looks more like "pay us more because we can do whatever we want". https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/entertainment/prime-video-update-announces-limited-ads https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/entertainment/prime-video-u...

dantyti 3y ago

No, Google still is an ad company. I do not want my identity and payment info tied to my watch history. I do not trust Google to not use my data for monetization outside of youtube (e.g., selling my 'anonymized' user persona to data aggregators). Hence, using a google account to get youtube premium is not an option.