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I use NewPipe on my phone, SmartTubeNext on my Android TV, and uBlock+FF inside of a container without being logged in on my laptop. I was at a friend's house

I use NewPipe on my phone, SmartTubeNext on my Android TV, and uBlock+FF inside of a container without being logged in on my laptop. I was at a friend's house yesterday and they showed me a video on YouTube. I couldn't believe how many ads there were. It was unwatchable. Not sure how people don't pay for premium or block ads. What a miserable experience.

Yhippa 3y ago
I presume that you don't pay for Premium? And that the average user isn't interested in installing a tech cocktail on their systems?
- giantrobot 3y ago
  Not the GP but I spend very little time on YouTube. Even me binging YouTube is watching maybe one or two videos in a row. I hate YouTube ads because they're usually worse than the most obnoxious TV ads with blaring audio or just obnoxious content. I don't watch YouTube enough that Premium is anywhere close to worth the money. So I happily block ads and will drop YouTube in a second if they block me for using an ad blocker. They'd be better off limiting the quality of streams to ad blockers. By blocking those users YouTubers lose paid placement online advertising.
  - ryandrake 3y ago
    > I hate YouTube ads because they're usually worse than the most obnoxious TV ads with blaring audio or just obnoxious content. It's the absolute bottom of the barrel, too. AI voices pitching scam colon cleanses and scam detox shakes, and yes everything is LOOOOUD and interruptive. At least on network TV, the content has natural pauses for ads, but on YouTube they just shove em in whenever. Nothing quite like listening to quiet ambient or classical piano music and then all of a sudden some giant, roided-out asshole is screaming at me: "LET ME HELP YOU GET RRRRRRRIPPED AT THE GYMMM!!!" I have no ethical qualms about blocking that shit.
    - saltminer 3y ago
      You can manage where mid-rolls are placed, but that requires the uploader to actually care enough to carve out natural pause points and then specify them as manual ad breaks in YouTube studio. Most just rely on the auto-ad placement, which claims to intelligently place them in natural breakpoints, but in practice is absolutely terrible at it. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6175006 https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6175006 Whenever uBlock crashes and gets auto-disabled by Chrome, I'm always impressed by the sheer dearth of quality ads. Gone are the days of soda ads and movie trailers, now YouTube just serves up some TTS portrait video with the camera barely in focus talking about the most mind-numbing scam products imaginable, an Evangelical church talking about how Trump is the second coming of Christ (which feels like a pretty blatant violation of the first commandment, and probably also the second, but hey, I'm an apostate, so what would I know...), or just straight up MLM pitches.
    - giantrobot 3y ago
      > Nothing quite like listening to quiet ambient or classical piano music and then all of a sudden some giant, roided-out asshole is screaming at me: "LET ME HELP YOU GET RRRRRRRIPPED AT THE GYMMM!!!" To expand on this I find ads are even on random videos. So you might get one video with no ads followed by a video that has mid-roll ads. There's no rhyme or reason to it. There's no clear expectation set that a video is going to have ads or not, let alone their super obnoxious ads. Ads on YouTube are a total shit show. There's no aspect of YouTube that makes me think "damn I should watch more YouTube" and certainly nothing that makes me think I should pay for it. It seems everything YouTube does is try to drive me away by being frustrating. Maybe they are because I've fallen into some A/B test group that makes the YouTube experience too obnoxious to use.
      - ryandrake 3y ago
        > It seems everything YouTube does is try to drive me away by being frustrating. Interesting choice of words, as one of their execs specifically pointed out[1] that a goal was to "frustrate" users with ads: > "You're not going to be happy after you are jamming Stairway To Heaven and you get an ad right after that," Mr Cohen said in an interview. 1: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-43496603 https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-43496603
- alok-g 3y ago
  Not OP, but I prefer to watch ads instead of subscribing to Premium, but not because I do not want to pay, rather because being logged in implies more tracking and personalization. I prefer it stateless.
nickthegreek 3y ago
What’s the difference between SmartTube and SmartTubeNext? I just recently put ST on my shield and it’s been working great.
- davet91 3y ago
  It's the same. They dropped the "Next" some time ago.
nomilk 3y ago
> uBlock+FF inside of a container without being logged in on my laptop Would love to see more newbie guides (perhaps videos hehe) on how to set this up. > couldn't believe how many ads there were. It was unwatchable. I'd go further, a single ad makes it unwatchable for me. That includes on work computers where I'm not (and can't) logged into my google account to access paid youtube without ads.
- oaththrowaway 3y ago
  Just use this addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-container/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-conta... And then never login. If you have uBlock Origin you won't see ads
  - diarrhea 3y ago
    Firefox supports containers natively nowadays.
    - kurtoid 3y ago
      At a glance, the linked extension uses Firefox native containers, like the Facebook container it forks. All it does is assign the site to a container, so the user doesn't have to do it manually.
BLKNSLVR 3y ago
We press ever-closer to Futurama's vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGklt4BSQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGklt4BSQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlCrcMeVZHs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlCrcMeVZHs

Yhippa 3y ago

I presume that you don't pay for Premium? And that the average user isn't interested in installing a tech cocktail on their systems?

giantrobot 3y ago
Not the GP but I spend very little time on YouTube. Even me binging YouTube is watching maybe one or two videos in a row. I hate YouTube ads because they're usually worse than the most obnoxious TV ads with blaring audio or just obnoxious content. I don't watch YouTube enough that Premium is anywhere close to worth the money. So I happily block ads and will drop YouTube in a second if they block me for using an ad blocker. They'd be better off limiting the quality of streams to ad blockers. By blocking those users YouTubers lose paid placement online advertising.
- ryandrake 3y ago
  > I hate YouTube ads because they're usually worse than the most obnoxious TV ads with blaring audio or just obnoxious content. It's the absolute bottom of the barrel, too. AI voices pitching scam colon cleanses and scam detox shakes, and yes everything is LOOOOUD and interruptive. At least on network TV, the content has natural pauses for ads, but on YouTube they just shove em in whenever. Nothing quite like listening to quiet ambient or classical piano music and then all of a sudden some giant, roided-out asshole is screaming at me: "LET ME HELP YOU GET RRRRRRRIPPED AT THE GYMMM!!!" I have no ethical qualms about blocking that shit.
  - saltminer 3y ago
    You can manage where mid-rolls are placed, but that requires the uploader to actually care enough to carve out natural pause points and then specify them as manual ad breaks in YouTube studio. Most just rely on the auto-ad placement, which claims to intelligently place them in natural breakpoints, but in practice is absolutely terrible at it. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6175006 https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6175006 Whenever uBlock crashes and gets auto-disabled by Chrome, I'm always impressed by the sheer dearth of quality ads. Gone are the days of soda ads and movie trailers, now YouTube just serves up some TTS portrait video with the camera barely in focus talking about the most mind-numbing scam products imaginable, an Evangelical church talking about how Trump is the second coming of Christ (which feels like a pretty blatant violation of the first commandment, and probably also the second, but hey, I'm an apostate, so what would I know...), or just straight up MLM pitches.
  - giantrobot 3y ago
    > Nothing quite like listening to quiet ambient or classical piano music and then all of a sudden some giant, roided-out asshole is screaming at me: "LET ME HELP YOU GET RRRRRRRIPPED AT THE GYMMM!!!" To expand on this I find ads are even on random videos. So you might get one video with no ads followed by a video that has mid-roll ads. There's no rhyme or reason to it. There's no clear expectation set that a video is going to have ads or not, let alone their super obnoxious ads. Ads on YouTube are a total shit show. There's no aspect of YouTube that makes me think "damn I should watch more YouTube" and certainly nothing that makes me think I should pay for it. It seems everything YouTube does is try to drive me away by being frustrating. Maybe they are because I've fallen into some A/B test group that makes the YouTube experience too obnoxious to use.
    - ryandrake 3y ago
      > It seems everything YouTube does is try to drive me away by being frustrating. Interesting choice of words, as one of their execs specifically pointed out[1] that a goal was to "frustrate" users with ads: > "You're not going to be happy after you are jamming Stairway To Heaven and you get an ad right after that," Mr Cohen said in an interview. 1: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-43496603 https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-43496603
alok-g 3y ago
Not OP, but I prefer to watch ads instead of subscribing to Premium, but not because I do not want to pay, rather because being logged in implies more tracking and personalization. I prefer it stateless.

nickthegreek 3y ago

What’s the difference between SmartTube and SmartTubeNext? I just recently put ST on my shield and it’s been working great.

davet91 3y ago
It's the same. They dropped the "Next" some time ago.

nomilk 3y ago

> uBlock+FF inside of a container without being logged in on my laptop Would love to see more newbie guides (perhaps videos hehe) on how to set this up. > couldn't believe how many ads there were. It was unwatchable. I'd go further, a single ad makes it unwatchable for me. That includes on work computers where I'm not (and can't) logged into my google account to access paid youtube without ads.

oaththrowaway 3y ago
Just use this addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-container/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-conta... And then never login. If you have uBlock Origin you won't see ads
- diarrhea 3y ago
  Firefox supports containers natively nowadays.
  - kurtoid 3y ago
    At a glance, the linked extension uses Firefox native containers, like the Facebook container it forks. All it does is assign the site to a container, so the user doesn't have to do it manually.

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

We press ever-closer to Futurama's vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGklt4BSQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGklt4BSQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlCrcMeVZHs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlCrcMeVZHs