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Or the false sense of security.

willis936 3y ago
What is false about it? Are you arguing that we are less secure against nature while sitting in climate controlled buildings with food stores in them, and a global industrial complex raised to keep these trains running?
- justinator 3y ago
  I have never lived in a world where there was not the existential threat of nuclear annihilation in every minute of every hour of every day of my life. But you're right: I'm not going to get lost in my own city - or yours - because I have an iPhone in my pocket. I may never really learn my city and all its hidden little secrets you find only by wandering around, but I'll be efficient getting to the bar in a "climate controlled buildings" where I'll just stare at the iPhone some more and not really talk to anyone, as that's what everyone is doing, too. "It is a world suited for monomaniacs obsessed with the idea of progress - but a false progress, a progress which stinks. It is a world cluttered with useless objects which men and women, in order to be exploited and degraded, are taught to regard as useful ... Whatever does not lend itself to being bought or sold ... is debarred" –Henry Miller, The Air-Conditioned Nightmare
  - wiseowise 3y ago
    > but I'll be efficient getting to the bar in a "climate controlled buildings" where I'll just stare at the iPhone some more and not really talk to anyone, as that's what everyone is doing, too. Sometimes I wonder if internet people are living in parallel universe. I see literally opposite, wherever I go, of what people like you describe.
    - justinator 3y ago
      Well you're spending your Sunday staring at a screen on a venture capitalist's message board, having contributed nine comments in the last 24 hours. Where are you right now, exactly?
  - barsonme 3y ago
    This is incredibly myopic and ungrateful. Thanks to technology, we don’t have to try and have eight kids—losing half of them at a young age—just so that we don’t lose the farm and starve. Thanks to technology, millions of children are protected from diseases that years ago they would’ve died from. But sure, blame technology for your lack of self control causing you to stare at your phone at bars.
    - justinator 3y ago
      Thanks to technology, I have no interest in ever having kids.

What is false about it? Are you arguing that we are less secure against nature while sitting in climate controlled buildings with food stores in them, and a global industrial complex raised to keep these trains running?

justinator 3y ago
I have never lived in a world where there was not the existential threat of nuclear annihilation in every minute of every hour of every day of my life. But you're right: I'm not going to get lost in my own city - or yours - because I have an iPhone in my pocket. I may never really learn my city and all its hidden little secrets you find only by wandering around, but I'll be efficient getting to the bar in a "climate controlled buildings" where I'll just stare at the iPhone some more and not really talk to anyone, as that's what everyone is doing, too. "It is a world suited for monomaniacs obsessed with the idea of progress - but a false progress, a progress which stinks. It is a world cluttered with useless objects which men and women, in order to be exploited and degraded, are taught to regard as useful ... Whatever does not lend itself to being bought or sold ... is debarred" –Henry Miller, The Air-Conditioned Nightmare
- wiseowise 3y ago
  > but I'll be efficient getting to the bar in a "climate controlled buildings" where I'll just stare at the iPhone some more and not really talk to anyone, as that's what everyone is doing, too. Sometimes I wonder if internet people are living in parallel universe. I see literally opposite, wherever I go, of what people like you describe.
  - justinator 3y ago
    Well you're spending your Sunday staring at a screen on a venture capitalist's message board, having contributed nine comments in the last 24 hours. Where are you right now, exactly?
- barsonme 3y ago
  This is incredibly myopic and ungrateful. Thanks to technology, we don’t have to try and have eight kids—losing half of them at a young age—just so that we don’t lose the farm and starve. Thanks to technology, millions of children are protected from diseases that years ago they would’ve died from. But sure, blame technology for your lack of self control causing you to stare at your phone at bars.
  - justinator 3y ago
    Thanks to technology, I have no interest in ever having kids.